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Cars are so expensive that buyers need seven-year loans

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Re: Cars are so expensive that buyers need seven-year loans

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Cars last longer now, so this may not be as bad as it sounds. The real issue is whether people are ending up underwater on their vehicles - that is, are loan lengths increasing faster than depreciation curves are flattening.

Do they really? I've seen plenty of surveys that say American consumers are _keeping_ their passenger cars for longer and longer periods (12.8 years in 2025 https://www.spglobal.com/automotive-insights/en/blogs/2025/0...)

But is there any study that says the components or designs are needing less repairs or are getting cheaper to maintain over that 12.8 year period as opposed to, say, an econobox sedan from 2005?

Is a modern family car with GDI, CVT, plastic oil pan, infotainment system, and litany of safety sensors going to last as long without bankrupting its owner as an equivalent product from a comparable market segment 20 years ago?

Re: Cars are so expensive that buyers need seven-year loans

#22

Cars last longer now, so this may not be as bad as it sounds. The real issue is whether people are ending up underwater on their vehicles - that is, are loan lengths increasing faster than depreciation curves are flattening.

> Cars last longer now

Honda from 2005 could last 10 years in Quebec and Honda from 2015 could last 10 years. I don't have huge stats, but it seems that cars are about as reliable today as they were 20 years ago. I didn't notice them to be more reliable.

Re: Cars are so expensive that buyers need seven-year loans

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You will own nothing and be happy basically.

Eh cars are one of the few areas that haven't been crushed by inflation unless you buy some stupid giant SUV. Honda civic costs less than it did in the 90s/00s (adjusted for inflation). Tons of affordable sedans out there, people just like getting giant $50k+ cars, I have no clue why.

> Honda civic costs less than it did in the 90s/00s (adjusted for inflation)

Adjusted to inflation Honda Civic costs slightly more today in Canada than it costed on 2015. I'm not sure that the median salaries grew at the same rate.

Re: Cars are so expensive that buyers need seven-year loans

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do RVs have a deprecation cliff since you cannot take old RVs to many campsites?

I just looked that up and apparently there are 10 or 15 year rules enforced by some but not all parks. If the RV is older than 10 or 15 years it will be barred from entry. Apparently the rule is to deter people who do not maintain their clunker of an RV which might break down, leak various fluids or catch fire. The given advice is to keep your rig in good shape and call the RV park and explain the situation. They may…

It seems like that would zap a lot of value. Just going through the uncertainty if your RV makes the grade after a certain time.

Re: Cars are so expensive that buyers need seven-year loans

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My experience is that the base price for a car hasn't increased as much as all the mandatory dealer add-ons they force on you. I'm currently trying to buy a new car and the dealer refuses to sell me one without a Pulse brake light, paint protection, ceramic glaze, wheel & tire protection, floor mats, and prepaid maintenance, and I must trade in my current vehicle. Other dealers in the area all do the same thing. I wa…

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Re: Cars are so expensive that buyers need seven-year loans

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post #22

Cars last longer now, so this may not be as bad as it sounds. The real issue is whether people are ending up underwater on their vehicles - that is, are loan lengths increasing faster than depreciation curves are flattening.

> Cars last longer now Honda from 2005 could last 10 years in Quebec and Honda from 2015 could last 10 years. I don't have huge stats, but it seems that cars are about as reliable today as they were 20 years ago. I didn't notice them to be more reliable.

particularly honda hybrids are simpler and more reliable than ice versions, so probably will last longer.

Re: Cars are so expensive that buyers need seven-year loans

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My experience is that the base price for a car hasn't increased as much as all the mandatory dealer add-ons they force on you. I'm currently trying to buy a new car and the dealer refuses to sell me one without a Pulse brake light, paint protection, ceramic glaze, wheel & tire protection, floor mats, and prepaid maintenance, and I must trade in my current vehicle. Other dealers in the area all do the same thing. I wa…

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