Through the Liquid Glass • Hacker News Board

Re: Through the Liquid Glass

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Post by cultofmetatron » Tue, Sep 02, 2025, 7:48 PM UTC

a1371 wrote: post #17

cultofmetatron wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thats because canola oil is objectively terrible for your health and will make you die young. Jury is out on avacado oil but for cooking, its tallow, butter and cocount oil if you want to avoid burnout and premature aging.

I keep hearing this but as far as AHA and other credible sources that I have learned from, saturated fats are better be replaced with unsaturated: https://www.heart.org/en/healthy-living/healthy-eating/eat-s...

unsaturated fats from whole avacados, olive oil and coconut oil, sure. But I think the jury is still very much out on a whole class of oils originally meant for industrial lubrication that we started pushing into the american diet. As far as the american heart association being trustworthy, they are very much bought and paid for right back to their founding from a large grant to promote crisco.

Besides that, I'm wary of the saturated fats claim being true given that most of the studies were done on middle aged white men on a standard american diet. it didn't account for excessive calories and high levels of sugar in the diet. We've been eating animal products for thousands of years (inuits eating it exclusively) with little to no issues. Why would these suddenly now be a problem?

Re: Through the Liquid Glass

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Post by kcplate » Tue, Sep 02, 2025, 10:54 PM UTC

drpixie wrote: post #15

> This isn’t just a fresh coat of paint. Just how is this NOT just a fresh coat of paint? It is precisely the same controls, providing precisely the same effects, but looking different. And probably requiring just a little more attention and thought to actually use - so the device becomes slightly more of an attention trap/sink :(

> Just how is this NOT just a fresh coat of paint? It is precisely the same controls, providing precisely the same effects, but looking different.

I am not sure how someone would come to this conclusion if they are actually using it. This comment feels more like “I’ve seen screenshots and this is the conclusion I have drawn from what I have seen. The elements of this UI change go far beyond icons.

I’ve been using it daily since the dev release. It’s most definitely not the same controls at least within the apps that use some standard control and navigation elements. It feels new, but still familiar enough that I don’t think beyond the first few uses will require any additional thought.

Personally I was surprised at how much it conveyed the concept in my mind just through its visuals of the touch experience that I was interacting with a “thing” more than just a UI element. I fully expected to hate it, but don’t.

Re: Through the Liquid Glass

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Post by kcplate » Tue, Sep 02, 2025, 11:06 PM UTC

Nevermark wrote: post #12

gumby271 wrote: post #9

My favorite example of the ridiculous icon redesigns remains this one: https://mastodon.social/@BasicAppleGuy/115072885331562510 What fascinates me the most is not how bad the most recent one is, but how it now relies on you knowing the prior forms of that icon to know what the current one is conveying. Apple fans actually point this out as an artful homage, but to anyone not already steeped in Apple products, it's j…

I am struck by how great the "@" sign was as a perfect (and currently applicable) synecdoche for contact information.

But is it though? My nearly 90 year old mother wouldn’t necessarily make that connection on her iPhone or iPad. I’d reckon that for many folks over 50 it would not necessarily be obvious without seeing @ used beyond email.

I agree the latest rev does require familiarity with the old one more than it should, but a weeble, to me, is a better universal iconographic symbol to denote a contact than an @ (just in general)