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Grok 2.5 is now open source. Grok 3 will be open source in about 6 months

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Re: Grok 2.5 is now open source. Grok 3 will be open source in about 6 months

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Post by pxc »

Permik wrote: post #6
esperent wrote: post #3

I assume this is open weights rather than open source? Non Twitter link: https://xcancel.com/elonmusk/status/1959379349322313920

Yeah, open weights but with tons of limitations in the license. https://huggingface.co/xai-org/grok-2/blob/main/LICENSE

Maybe we should have a parallel designation for this like "weights available", because this license is quite restrictive and really not comparable to models with weights released under, e.g., Apache or MIT licenses.

Re: Grok 2.5 is now open source. Grok 3 will be open source in about 6 months

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Post by leobg »

phatfish wrote: post #18
leobg wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> based on the headlines they skimmed about Musk’s politics

No need to skim headlines, just skim his Twitter history. Perfect headline material from source.

That was my point. Knowledge based on a headline based on a tweet.

Re: Grok 2.5 is now open source. Grok 3 will be open source in about 6 months

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Post by puilp0502 »

piperswe wrote: post #20
riedel wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What of those are unreasonable terms? Quickly looking into it, it seems mostly that it is restricted to legal use and the provider has to take some responsibility.

Those limitations mean: - Not open "source" because source isn't available - Not "open" weights because there are restrictions on use This model is weights-available. There's nothing open about it.

Doesn't this apply to most of the "open-weight" models like Llama and Gemma? I remember Llama also having some specific terms targeted at big boi players as well.

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Post by piperswe »

puilp0502 wrote: post #24
piperswe wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those limitations mean: - Not open "source" because source isn't available - Not "open" weights because there are restrictions on use This model is weights-available. There's nothing open about it.

Doesn't this apply to most of the "open-weight" models like Llama and Gemma? I remember Llama also having some specific terms targeted at big boi players as well.

Correct. There are just about zero open models out there.
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