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Y Combinator files brief supporting Epic Games, says store fees stifle startups

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Re: Y Combinator files brief supporting Epic Games, says store fees stifle startups

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Post by ensignavenger »

lloyddobbler wrote: post #4

“A 30% revenue share can easily be the difference between a company that can afford to scale, hire new employees, and reinvest in its product, and one that is perpetually struggling to stay afloat.” This brought up a fun thought exercise for me. Pretty sure that Y Combinator would argue that giving away 7% of one's company for access to intangible (but beneficial) things like funding, advisors, etc, is completely wor…

If there were competition for App Stores, we could discover what the correct market price for App Stores is, but Apple doesn't want that.

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Post by radley »

sonofhans wrote: post #6

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> if the App Store had never existed? ...even though it lays golden eggs

Why is the general rebuttal always binary? Be grateful that it exists at all! It lays golden eggs!

No, they're just eggs. A few of us are lucky to sell a lot of eggs. That doesn't make them golden. The true gold eggs are grown despite the store (Netflix, YouTube, OpenAI).

Imagine an App Store that only lets you make black and white apps, but the store itself can produce full-color apps. Further, if your black and white app is actually successful, they'll copy it and release their version in color.

That's what's hindering us today.

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Post by poisonborz »

effortment wrote: post #12

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It baffles me how in tech folks think "if X wouldn't have been created, there wouldn't be anything comparable created since then".

Software app stores, even mobile app stores existed before, App store's success was mostly a mere consequence of the iPhone's success.

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Post by epolanski »

effortment wrote: post #22
epolanski wrote: post #16

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30% fees are mental. Most of my clients don't even bother/care and their competition doesn't bother/care either.

Then why bother arguing?

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Post by qcnguy »

sonofhans wrote: post #6

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Probably, mobile operating systems would work more like macOS where apps can be installed directly from websites with a layer of (possibly server side) malware checking and more reliance on code signing/sandboxing. There's no inherent reason apps must be distributed via app stores.
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