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So evidently a two state solution is off the table, and once all the Palestinians are driven away, a one state solution will become acceptable to Israel. Is there some other way this could play out?
Weren’t all two state proposals in the past rejected by one Palestinian leader or the other?
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US ruling class are Zionists. They are all part of the same club. Doesn’t matter if it is not in the interest of the US state, only that it benefits their own interests.
The Christian right are selective, fatalistic "Zionists" with magical thinking beliefs that, in their view, lasts until the apocalypse because they believe some Jews will convert and others will meet a bad end. Since they don't really care about Jews except as a means to end everything and meet Jesus, does that count as "Zionism"?
Rich, authoritarian criminals. Which is a bit redundant because "rich" suffices. Netanyahu and Trump are both in roughly similar predicaments compared to extreme examples like Putin and Kim Jong Un. They've done things to anger ordinary people but refuse to concede power for fear of prosecution or worse, and so do everything to insulate and extend their rules.
So evidently a two state solution is off the table, and once all the Palestinians are driven away, a one state solution will become acceptable to Israel. Is there some other way this could play out?
The only viable, long-term, stable solution is abandonment of Zionism for a one state solution with a secular democracy that doesn't selectively enfranchise or disenfranchise people based on religious, ethnic, or racial identity. The problem right now is that millions of people are part of a cult and cult-adjacent who harbor beliefs of ethno-nationalist supremacy. History proves time and again that ethno-nationalist sentiment leads to war, murder, and genocide.
So evidently a two state solution is off the table, and once all the Palestinians are driven away, a one state solution will become acceptable to Israel. Is there some other way this could play out?
I imagine it will play out similarly to the genocide of the Native Americans: Ethnically cleansed or genocided. Any stragglers will live on reservations or the equivalent. Palestinians living under Israeli control will be subject to apartheid a la the Jim Crow South in the US. I still have a slim hope that this outcome will be averted, but the odds of that lessen by the day.
So evidently a two state solution is off the table, and once all the Palestinians are driven away, a one state solution will become acceptable to Israel. Is there some other way this could play out?
If you think about it, a "two state solution" results in the a continuation of de facto apartheid. Israel controls identity cards, vehicle registration, and the civil registry of births and deaths. There's basically no way for Palestinians to have a complete and independent country at this point, and this is a shame and a crime that was intended. The only viable, long-term, stable solution is abandonment of Zionism f…
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Israel never funded Hamas, you might be thinking of them facilitating Qatari aid funds.
Same difference
As result of this fallout PA stopped transferring money to Gaza to pay salaries and for maintenance of all infrastructure and services.
Mainstream media across the world had headlines that "hundreds of thousands of gazans will starve to death any moment now because they can't afford to buy food because israel blocks money for salaries" and "unmaintained infrastructure will result in mass illness etc.. etc.. etcc.. because israel blocks money for fixing things".
eventually Israel folded and allowed those transfers.
and now this is known as "israel propping up hamas"
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US ruling class are Zionists. They are all part of the same club. Doesn’t matter if it is not in the interest of the US state, only that it benefits their own interests.
Sort of. There are at least two, overlapping aspects to Israel affinity: religion and money. The Christian right are selective, fatalistic "Zionists" with magical thinking beliefs that, in their view, lasts until the apocalypse because they believe some Jews will convert and others will meet a bad end. Since they don't really care about Jews except as a means to end everything and meet Jesus, does that count as "Zion…
Yes. More specifically: Christian Zionism [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism].
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It's been dead since Netanyahu became Prime Minister. https://www.jpost.com/arab-israeli-conflict/article-748435 https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/knesset-overwhe...
Netanyahu became PM in 1996. In his role as PM he signed follow up agreements to Oslo accords and handed over to PA control more parts west bank. As cabinet minister (in 2004?) he voted 4 times in favor of disengagement from gaza and removal of all jews from there (both life and dead). Later, when he became PM again, in speech that he gave he affirmed that he supports two state solution as long as palestinian state d…
I had imagined it as something like creating a country ("Palestine") in the West Bank, along the 1967 borders. But if so, what happens to the settlements that are (as TFA points out) still ongoing?
Is there supposed to be a different border? Exclaves of Israel? Or are those settlers supposed to become part of Palestine?