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Introduction to AT Protocol

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Re: Introduction to AT Protocol

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Post by gargron »

tetrisgm wrote: post #4

Been pondering for my team to use it for our product’s timeline. I don’t particularly want our user base to be Bluesky, but it’d be good to have support for the protocol, and control over the system. Have there been any products go embraced this? Or is it like ActivityPub where basically the whole thing is Mastodon.

ActivityPub is embraced by:

  - Threads  
  - Flipboard  
  - WordPress  
  - micro.blog  
  - NodeBB  
  - PeerTube  
  - Pixelfed  
  - GoToSocial  
  - Akkoma  
  - ...and countless smaller projects
It is by no means just Mastodon.

Re: Introduction to AT Protocol

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Post by fluoridation »

jazzyjackson wrote: post #7
koolala wrote: post #3

Would be great to have a new modern alternative to the E-mail standard that is usable for both public and private messaging.

email has come a long way with SPF, DKIM, and DMARC, and its cool that anyone can purchase a slice of the global namespace that is transferable between providers, but AFAIK the biggest road block to using email in a distributed self sovereign way is reputation and getting your messages delivered to google and outlook users partially because of the nonstop spam. Do we have any new tools to prevent spam in a post-email…

A quick back-of-the-envelope calculation says that USD 0.1 would be about 700 Wh, so, give or take, a high-performance desktop processor running full tilt for over four hours.

Personally, I'd prefer something like an expansion of how XMPP works. By default you only see what people in your contact list have sent you, and anything else is marked "dubious", and it's up to you to read it or not. I think it's a mistake that email servers have been given the responsibility to filter unwanted traffic. Email servers should have only ever simply passed along whatever they received (excluding excessively large messages, of course).

Re: Introduction to AT Protocol

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Post by mozzius »

tomrod wrote: post #17
verdverm wrote: post #14

If you are interested in building on ATProtocol, one of the best places to start is the Discord (until we have an atproto native alt @blebbit.app) https://discord.atprotocol.dev/ Of course the spec is good too, very easy read https://atproto.com https://docs.bsky.app

What sorts of things can be built on the protocol?

It’s good at social-oriented apps - there’s obviously Bluesky, and many other smaller apps in the style of other platforms.

One of the most interesting projects is tangled.sh - a github-like using atproto for the social layer, which fits perfectly.

Re: Introduction to AT Protocol

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Post by psionides »

tomrod wrote: post #17
verdverm wrote: post #14

If you are interested in building on ATProtocol, one of the best places to start is the Discord (until we have an atproto native alt @blebbit.app) https://discord.atprotocol.dev/ Of course the spec is good too, very easy read https://atproto.com https://docs.bsky.app

What sorts of things can be built on the protocol?

Anything "social" basically - the first ideas that come to people's minds are of course things like: GitHub but on ATProto, Instagram on ATProto, Tiktok on ATProto, Reddit on ATProto…

Re: Introduction to AT Protocol

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Post by jazzyjackson »

psionides wrote: post #26
tomrod wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What sorts of things can be built on the protocol?

Anything "social" basically - the first ideas that come to people's minds are of course things like: GitHub but on ATProto, Instagram on ATProto, Tiktok on ATProto, Reddit on ATProto…

Why isn't there a Discord built on ATProto ? [Serious Question, wondering if there are trade-offs that make this especially annoying]

Re: Introduction to AT Protocol

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Post by psionides »

jazzyjackson wrote: post #27
psionides wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anything "social" basically - the first ideas that come to people's minds are of course things like: GitHub but on ATProto, Instagram on ATProto, Tiktok on ATProto, Reddit on ATProto…

Why isn't there a Discord built on ATProto ? [Serious Question, wondering if there are trade-offs that make this especially annoying]

So, one big problem is that there's basically no way to have shared-private data in the protocol - it's either private to you, or fully public. Hence no "locked accounts", "followers-only posts" and so on on Bluesky, and this also prevents more sensitive ideas like e.g. "Strava on ATProto" (where you probably don't want to share your run map with the whole world!).

They are working on this, but it's still gonna take a while as I understand.

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