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Mozilla Firefox Is Dying

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Re: Mozilla Firefox Is Dying

#21
It’s been my default browser, also at universities I have been to (many use Linux desktop in common PCs). No issues.

Those items you mentioned are not really issues so to speak. You could say things like that about anything.

Re: Mozilla Firefox Is Dying

#22
"announcing a radical change in the core values"

Please identify the "radical change" referred to in "various controversies"

pretty vague confirmation or explaination for a decline in any going concern most of which are nowhere as valuable and free to millions of users as is firefox ... so whats meaining of this

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Re: Mozilla Firefox Is Dying

#23
Maybe browsers are nearing "peak maintainable complexity" for a single computer program. An early indication of this was the Linux distro's giving up on maintaining them. That was the universe informing mankind it had created a lump of so code so complex, it exceeded the ability of a single man to pick it up and run with it from a standing start. Now it seems it's getting beyond the ability of a moderately well funded organisation like Mozilla to maintain a competitor to Chrome.

Why is that important? Clearly maintaining Chrome isn't beyond the kind of software engineering expertise Google can bring to the task. Creating a ecosystem around a browser with so many features everyone uses it, but so complex only a few organisations do the same thing has rewarded Google handsomely. It's one of the ways they control the internet.

That control has also created a huge risk - people wielding antitrust laws want to break it. But if Google doesn't develop it what are we left with - Firefox? Or maybe its a whole pile in incompatible browsers, controlled Microsoft and Perplexity. Ah how we all pine for the IE6 days when Microsoft tried to use it to mold the internet in the direction it wanted it to go (which was nowhere much at all). Not.

Or we perhaps we abandon the entire platform. I suspect they hit the "release with the lowest bug count" a long time ago. With that ability to add features slows, they become less reliable, and eventually they collapse under their own weight. Does that deliver us a X to Wayland monument in Web Standards? Perhaps its starts with "HTML Small", a tiny version of HTML + CSS without the legacy that's small, simple and fast to render on a watch. Maybe the Chinese already have such a thing in WeChat.

Re: Mozilla Firefox Is Dying

#24
post #15

I don’t know a single person outside of online tech communities like HN that still uses Firefox. Virtually none of my non-tech friends know what Firefox even is.

You should tell them.

Being a tech & privacy evangelist to non-technical friends & family becomes exhausting after a time. Sometimes, you just want to be a person with other people, not a tech person.

Re: Mozilla Firefox Is Dying

#25
As one might guess from my username, I run Firefox. I love it -- I have it customized just the way I like it.

I think if they focused on memory issues rather than wizbang new features, paired with getting android and iOS versions up to snuff, they could catch up, paired with a marketing campaign.

What is our goal here anyway? Does everyone need to use firefox? A year of "Firefox on the desktop?"

Some tools are niche -- used by craftmen. What are sysadmins and engineers but, at heart, craftsmen?

Anyways, in closing I think it's a good browser.

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