4chan will win, american techbros will celebrate, then in a year the US will pass some sort of KYC. Surveillance is inevitable.
Only with that defeatist attitude will it be inevitable.
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Investigation into 4chan and its compliance with duties to protect its users
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#22Disgusting.
If I access 4chan only through tor, will I be safe from these tirants?
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#23USA is all about free speech because the big tech companies are in USA and behind closed doors do what the US Government tells them. If Meta/Google/Twitter/TikTok were foreign companies they'd likely be banned or regulated to be allowed to operate here.
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EU requires legal presence on our soil for US tech giants, so they usually open offices in Ireland because thats cheapest.
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#24Why do they think that organizations who operate completely outside of the UK, accept no money from UK citizens or otherwise do business there, fall within their jurisdiction? I think realistically all that could happen is they tell ISPs to block it.
Maybe they will say British citizens use it in foreign countries as their loophole. I don’t agree with it and I’m not a lawyer but I’m just predicting their argument.
Sounds like the same argument that Russia uses to invades its neighbors. "There's Russians there, therefore..."
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#25Why do they think that organizations who operate completely outside of the UK, accept no money from UK citizens or otherwise do business there, fall within their jurisdiction? I think realistically all that could happen is they tell ISPs to block it.
> they tell ISPs to block it Seems likely. And then that won't work, and they'll tell ISPs to block VPN traffic too.
ISPs blocking it will mostly work, I think. Most people can't be bothered with a VPN so if 4chan is inaccessible they'll just read/watch something else instead.
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#26Why do they think that organizations who operate completely outside of the UK, accept no money from UK citizens or otherwise do business there, fall within their jurisdiction? I think realistically all that could happen is they tell ISPs to block it.
Maybe they will say British citizens use it in foreign countries as their loophole. I don’t agree with it and I’m not a lawyer but I’m just predicting their argument.
Okay, but that's still not 4chan's problem. A company with no nexus in the UK has no reason to care about UK law in any way, shape, or form.
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#274chan will win, american techbros will celebrate, then in a year the US will pass some sort of KYC. Surveillance is inevitable.
Only with that defeatist attitude will it be inevitable.
A great and inspiring example is the SOPA/PIPA thing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Online_Piracy_Act#Opposit...
Now, there are other less inspiring examples (e.g. SESTA/FOSTA)! and this didn't somehow form a durable political consensus (or an entrenched legal principle), but people looking at this issue in advance would have thought, and did think, that obviously this legislation would pass. And then it didn't.
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#28Disgusting. If I access 4chan only through tor, will I be safe from these tirants?
You'll just stick out like a sore thumb
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
> they tell ISPs to block it Seems likely. And then that won't work, and they'll tell ISPs to block VPN traffic too.
ISPs blocking it will mostly work, I think. Most people can't be bothered with a VPN so if 4chan is inaccessible they'll just read/watch something else instead.
In the days following the enforcement of age verification legislation, VPNs were trending in the UK app store charts, above age verification apps.
Even today NordVPN is in the #5 spot, above Uber and Google.
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#304chan's response (through lawyers): https://x.com/prestonjbyrne/status/1956391746029428914 Full text: "BYRNE & STORM, P.C. ATTORNEYS-AT-LAW Re: Statement Regarding Ofcom's Reported Provisional Notice - 4chan Community Support LLC Byrne & Storm, P.C. ( @ByrneStorm ) and Coleman Law, P.C. ( @RonColeman ) represent 4chan Community Support LLC ("4chan"). According to press reports, the U.K. Office of Communications ("Ofc…
It’s funny. Their “Advertise” page explicitly mentions UK on demographics section (7% of users). Both Advertise and Rules pages explicitly mention local along with US laws. It looks like they actually do business in UK serving ads to UK users and thus should be subject to local laws themselves.