> For example, he expects there to be a hexagonal grid of apps, just like on the Apple Watch. One of the worst UI experiences out there.
Agreed. Super frustrating
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#22> For example, he expects there to be a hexagonal grid of apps, just like on the Apple Watch. One of the worst UI experiences out there.
I'm in the minority here. I switched from list to hex. The hex allows for me to select X more apps versus scrolling down and looking for it. It was painful at first since I needed to remember what logos mapped to what app.
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Apple has on a few occasions in the past come in after people have spent a lot of time and energy developing things and making a small market, figuring out how it should actually work, making a nice version 1.0 of how it should actually work, making that market explode 100-fold and taking all the money. That smart homes are more trouble than they are worth currently sounds to me like ripe territory for Apple to poach…
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A fuck of a lot better than HomePod, LOL!
(Context: I have 2 Apple TV devices and 5 HomePod devices in my home, plus one Apple Vision Pro. I only like one of those more than my Pixel 9 Fold.)
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#24In one sense this is logical. A HomePod with a screen and an iOS variant. On the other hand, what is this for? What uses do these smart home devices serve? We are a decade plus into the “smart home” era and most of these things are more trouble than they are worth.
If I had to guess they are going to try and shoehorn AI into it to get a last gasp on the stock price going up.
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#25> For example, he expects there to be a hexagonal grid of apps, just like on the Apple Watch. One of the worst UI experiences out there.
YMMV. I also hate it (and use the simple, GenX-compatible alphabetically-ordered list) but all my kids and also my wife prefer the weird hex grid — they're just faster with it, it doesn't slow them down the way it does to my 1970s heavy-rock brain ¯\\_(ಠ_ಠ)_/¯
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Apple has on a few occasions in the past come in after people have spent a lot of time and energy developing things and making a small market, figuring out how it should actually work, making a nice version 1.0 of how it should actually work, making that market explode 100-fold and taking all the money. That smart homes are more trouble than they are worth currently sounds to me like ripe territory for Apple to poach…
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The problem isn't that Vision Pro is a bad product. The problem is that it's built for a bad thesis. People don't want VR/AR goggles very much, or at least not many people do, and I think eventually we will stop trying to make this happen.
VR/AR has niche applications: gaming, industrial and military AR uses, assistive uses with people who are mobility challenged, education. These are niche uses. Even gaming is a niche-- most gamers have demonstrated that a big-ass monitor is preferred over goggles. Making the goggles better may push this a little but I doubt it's going to lead to a landslide of gaming demand.
VR/AR was largely a feature of dystopian sci-fi for a reason, too. Everyone jacking into goggles is dystopian. It's something that would appeal to people if the world got so shitty that you just don't even want to see what's in front of you, but I'd rather us spend our engineering effort making the world not get like that by solving some of our real world problems. I don't think I'm alone here.
It might be a good idea for long duration space flight, but personally if I were on a ship on the way to Mars I'd rather read books or hang with my ship mates and talk about the problems we're going to face when we land. If I decided to go into space I'd rather experience life in space -- including the boring parts and the hard parts -- than jack into some kind of VR escape world. I could do that at home.
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28 million watch sales may suggest that not everyone shares your opinion.
Since when are sales in any way correlated to quality of the product?
I think since forever...
https://frederik.today/blog/quality-vs-sales-affect-conversi...
https://avenuetalentpartners.com/2017/12/05/quality-always-w...
https://www.forbes.com/councils/forbescommunicationscouncil/...
Not saying it is a direct 1:1 correlation, but I think it's fair to say there is a correlation. And perhaps your definition of quality differs from others.
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The problem isn't that Vision Pro is a bad product. The problem is that it's built for a bad thesis. People don't want VR/AR goggles very much, or at least not many people do, and I think eventually we will stop trying to make this happen. VR/AR has niche applications: gaming, industrial and military AR uses, assistive uses with people who are mobility challenged, education. These are niche uses. Even gaming is a nic…
People didn't even want to put on 3d glasses for their TV. No way in hell are they strapping a computer to their faces.
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#29In the past I used to get excited for any rum or, teaser or upcoming release.
However, in this apple era I can’t.
Why? Because I can’t count on them to deliver.
The M series chips, and air pods have been a smashing success.
But the fact that Siri is still behind even pre LLM state of the art is abominable.
Apple vision was innovative. But the forward facing display, and titanium parts that bloated weight and cost was a sign of deteriorating design thinking.
Their delivery is so inconsistent lately its hard to trust the known what they’re doing with their future.
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#30In one sense this is logical. A HomePod with a screen and an iOS variant. On the other hand, what is this for? What uses do these smart home devices serve? We are a decade plus into the “smart home” era and most of these things are more trouble than they are worth.
They're amazing at invading privacy!