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Modos Paper Monitor – Open-hardware e-paper monitor and dev kit

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Re: Modos Paper Monitor – Open-hardware e-paper monitor and dev kit

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Post by torium »

KolmogorovComp wrote: post #20
torium wrote: post #16

Not sure I understand what I'm looking at. At 0:47, which one is the e-ink, left hand side or right hand side? Initially I thought the e-ink was on the left hand side, but it has SO MUCH GLARE. Also on the intro at 0:10 you can see the glare move across as they tilt it. More glare: 0:26 (left) 0:28 (top left). I have an e-ink reader and it has zero glare. I read it on the beach as clearly as paper, I'm not exaggerati…

It’s obviously the left one. I don’t see much glare on it.

You don't see the glare on the left hand side? Are you trolling me?

https://imgur.com/AsMMNmi

https://imgur.com/a/kHBiPmu

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Post by DrJaws »

b112 wrote: post #6
sandos wrote: post #2

It seems to update fast, but with significant ghosting, right? Looking at the cat example. Maybe this is just the best e-ink can do, and thats fine!

There's a lot better being done by Boox, and even with colour e-ink in terms of ghosting. I think a lot of that is software end, though. The one unfortunate thing is that this monitor seems to have a glossy screen, not matte, but maybe that's an additional layer over a dev kit? If this truly is 'open', then it should be trivial to write special X11/Wayland drivers for it, to handle a lot of the ghosting issues at tha…

boox devices are not even close to 75hz though

not even the latest ones like tab x c

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Post by DrJaws »

dspillett wrote: post #12
b112 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a lot better being done by Boox, and even with colour e-ink in terms of ghosting. I think a lot of that is software end, though. The one unfortunate thing is that this monitor seems to have a glossy screen, not matte, but maybe that's an additional layer over a dev kit? If this truly is 'open', then it should be trivial to write special X11/Wayland drivers for it, to handle a lot of the ghosting issues at tha…

Another problem with Boox is the disregard of the requirements of the GPL family of licences. I've been interested in some of their devices but won't touch them due to that (and now due to the issue you stated - though I was unaware there was un-disablable “telemetry”, I'd have to look into that if they ever did something about the lack of GPL compliance).

they didn't, they even said something like "lol we don't care, we will never make things open source".

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Post by DrJaws »

foolswisdom wrote: post #14
b112 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a lot better being done by Boox, and even with colour e-ink in terms of ghosting. I think a lot of that is software end, though. The one unfortunate thing is that this monitor seems to have a glossy screen, not matte, but maybe that's an additional layer over a dev kit? If this truly is 'open', then it should be trivial to write special X11/Wayland drivers for it, to handle a lot of the ghosting issues at tha…

Can you tell us more about the phoning home?

it's not much different than a samsung device phoning their servers for every thing the device does.

but in this case as it does to china, people are a bit paranoid. usually mostly is their cloud services for notetaking or some push notifications.

but I think I remember people saying they could disable everything by rooting the devices.

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Post by Escapade5160 »

Soldered Inkplate is a solid option for anyone wanting a device with Wi-Fi, backlight, touch screen, battery, and runs arduino or micro python. Recently set one up as a display that updates if I'm in a meeting or free that I hang on my office door.

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Post by RossBencina »

exceptione wrote: post #15

Being Dutch I am proud to see NLNet and the EU financially supporting this project. We deny ourselves so much progress by forcing smart individuals with a passion into conglomerates that are merely busy destroying competition. Small to medium sized organizations have the biggest potential for innovation, and look what two people even can do.

Agree, and for those who aren't aware, these grants are available to anyone, not limited to Netherlands residents: https://nlnet.nl/NGI0/

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Post by Igrom »

jzellis wrote: post #17

This would be absolutely amazing for a productivity device. I've rooted my Kindle Paperwhite and set it up with a terminal and used it to SSH into my laptop just to try it, but the latency makes it a bit irritating just to keep up with typing. To be able to use a fully graphical environment in e-paper, even in grayscale, would be amazing. I built a cyberdeck that primarily uses a pair of XReal AR glasses as its displ…

Can you showcase the cyberdeck? I've found a post by you on Twitter, but I don't know if you demo it elsewhere.

Re: Modos Paper Monitor – Open-hardware e-paper monitor and dev kit

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Post by RossBencina »

b112 wrote: post #6
sandos wrote: post #2

It seems to update fast, but with significant ghosting, right? Looking at the cat example. Maybe this is just the best e-ink can do, and thats fine!

There's a lot better being done by Boox, and even with colour e-ink in terms of ghosting. I think a lot of that is software end, though. The one unfortunate thing is that this monitor seems to have a glossy screen, not matte, but maybe that's an additional layer over a dev kit? If this truly is 'open', then it should be trivial to write special X11/Wayland drivers for it, to handle a lot of the ghosting issues at tha…

The dev kit works with most if not all eink panels. You are not limited to the panels shipped in this launch.

It is fully open, the full source code, gateware and hardware designs are on github: https://github.com/Modos-Labs/Glider

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