While the headline is focused Microsoft the bigger story is the wanton violation of human rights, privacy and using this data in risk scores which I’m certain gets used in automated kill chains by Israel.
Israel relying on Microsoft cloud for expansive surveillance of Palestinians
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#22Why is this flagged, and why can’t I vouch for it?
It's not [dead], which means vouching already worked.
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#23While the headline is focused Microsoft the bigger story is the wanton violation of human rights, privacy and using this data in risk scores which I’m certain gets used in automated kill chains by Israel.
Right. However this is a tech/science focused news site so let's keep it that way.
Re: Israel relying on Microsoft cloud for expansive surveillance of Palestinians
#24While the headline is focused Microsoft the bigger story is the wanton violation of human rights, privacy and using this data in risk scores which I’m certain gets used in automated kill chains by Israel.
Right. However this is a tech/science focused news site so let's keep it that way.
Storing phone calls en mass and using ai to target people based on what they say, is tech imho. This is like what Snowden revealed about PRISM, only stored on Microsoft’s servers and it’s used to kill people.
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#25Gates: [smirks] All right...
I shall amend my flawed recollection of the facts: it was a chuckle, not a smirk.
https://www.theverge.com/news/643777/microsoft-bill-gates-st...
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#26Why is this flagged, and why can’t I vouch for it?
It's not [dead], which means vouching already worked.
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
Capitalism is just a reflection of people being self-interested which you can't prevent without being authoritarian which will inevitably leads also to surveillance.
> Capitalism is just a reflection of people being self-interested I don't think that's the case. I think most people are not self-interested, or at least not in the selfish sense. I think most people are more than willing to sacrifice _some_ direct personal gain for better community gains. The problem is that capitalism only allows selfish self-interest to flourish, so it incentivises even the more community-oriented…
>or at least not in the selfish sense
Wasn't a requirement, self interest doesn't imply malice.
>capitalism only allows selfish self-interest to flourish
How's that then?
>Capitalism is a form of authoritarianism in that it really only serves a few
You're cooked, market liberalisation has led the world from >80% in poverty to <10% in under 40 years, even removing huge entities like China.
Re: Israel relying on Microsoft cloud for expansive surveillance of Palestinians
#28Gates: [smirks] All right...
I shall amend my flawed recollection of the facts: it was a chuckle, not a smirk. https://www.theverge.com/news/643777/microsoft-bill-gates-st...
Probably the same smirk he gave his (former) wife when she asked exactly how he knew his friend Jeffrey Epstein.
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's scary how this is actually being called out as a problem of capitalism ... when anyone can look up history and see communists were actually doing this in 1946. Not just phones, they were doing it on the street, going as far as sending out people to listen in on conversations everywhere. Makes sense, I guess: there were barely any phones to tap when communists started doing this. In case you don't know mass phone…
I would really much want to see which Marx (with Engels or not) writings advocate for mass surveillance. I would also like to see a reference of when did he call for a bourgeoisie massacre.
Then I suggest you actually read the manifest. Oh, I should probably declare you technically correct. He does not call for a massacre, just a violent revolution. These are technically not exactly the same. They turned out the same in practice though.
Re: Israel relying on Microsoft cloud for expansive surveillance of Palestinians
#30While the headline is focused Microsoft the bigger story is the wanton violation of human rights, privacy and using this data in risk scores which I’m certain gets used in automated kill chains by Israel.
Right. However this is a tech/science focused news site so let's keep it that way.
So it isn't tech focused, because that use of tech is a politically controversial and ethically questionable?
Yeah, no that is not how this works. We in tech also need to be able to talk about about how the systems we build impact the world. And if we only talk about the positive sides, we are not getting the full picture.