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I would buy a Nokia Android. Awesome hardware, great software. Windows 8 on a Nokia is like taking a camel to a horse race.
Had the exact same thought while watching the conference. The problem does not come from the hardware, it comes from the software.
I would buy a Nokia Android. Awesome hardware, great software. Windows 8 on a Nokia is like taking a camel to a horse race.
> Windows 8 on a Nokia is like taking a camel to a horse race. What are you basing this statement on?
Second, I think the WP8 UI very divisive. You either love it or you don't. Personally, I think it's a Pepsi. Sweet on first impression, but cumbersome to use every day. Too much scrolling (can't use muscle memory) and giant typography which distract from the content.
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Agreed. Not a lot to brag about, but I'd at least mention that it is retina.
What does retina mean? Can you explain to us? Do we really need a term for "high PPI"? If iPhone 4 is retina, then what is Xperia S? It is certainly not retina, because it would be insulting to call it retina when its pixels are even more indistinguishable. What about Galaxy Nexus? It is 316 PPI, slightly less than iPhone. Is it enough for being retina or not? Who determines?
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> Windows 8 on a Nokia is like taking a camel to a horse race. What are you basing this statement on?
Well, Windows Phone has failed to gain traction in the marketplace and therefore lacks a proper app ecosystem. Second, I think the WP8 UI very divisive. You either love it or you don't. Personally, I think it's a Pepsi. Sweet on first impression, but cumbersome to use every day. Too much scrolling (can't use muscle memory) and giant typography which distract from the content.
Could you expand on what you see as a proper app ecosystem?
- It can't be the tooling, Visual Studio and .NET have a pretty huge install bases.
- Is it the distribution channel?
- Is it that there aren't 60,000,000 apps like for Android? If so that number should be reduced down to about the ~5000 apps that are actually worth a crap in Android in which case Windows phone would probably stack up pretty well.
- It can't be moentization, just yesterday most of read of the heartbreaking case of Retickr (http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4475918), after a year of nearing the top of the app store for iPhone (which is assumed to be a more profitable demographic) they still shut down after burning through (some/all?) founder savings, plus a seed round plus a funding round. It seems if you make a profit in ANY app ecosystem you are an outlier.
What is Microsoft missing that would make it "proper"?
I understand that this kind of marketing works. But how? How come people do not value true innovation and choose to buy "better than HD resolution" when what they really need is already crisp iPhone screen?
That's great news. All of us time-travelers who sport extra-high resolution artificial eyes will be able to see all the extra detail this higher density allows. Now, seriously, there is absolutely no need to increase pixel density
"More retina" is meaningless: the whole pointer is that it's indistinguishable from normal use distance. You can say "higher resolution", or even "retina when held closer to the face", but "more retina" really is nonsense!
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> Windows 8 on a Nokia is like taking a camel to a horse race. What are you basing this statement on?
Well, Windows Phone has failed to gain traction in the marketplace and therefore lacks a proper app ecosystem. Second, I think the WP8 UI very divisive. You either love it or you don't. Personally, I think it's a Pepsi. Sweet on first impression, but cumbersome to use every day. Too much scrolling (can't use muscle memory) and giant typography which distract from the content.
Can you even buy a WP8 phone yet? Give it a year after it's released before passing judgment on its app ecosystem.
You're confusing the old with the new.
Their whole deal here is that they are re-inventing the product line. It's not the old WP flop anymore.
> Personally, I think it's a Pepsi. Sweet on first impression, but cumbersome to use every day.
That's coming from someone that's never even used it once!
Personally, I think they have an awesome product. Once MS and manufacturers gear up their marketing, we'll see what happens.