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Q: If I am a teenager wanting to access content that is prohibited by age verification, who is mostly likely the party that will provide access?
A: The local drug dealer or extremist.
This means a new market is born.
I love this. I don't think children should be seeing what they can see on the Internet (we limit what movies or games they can buy, but hey - you can go online and watch hardcore porn, or people getting killed on video even when you are 12). I also love that EU is working on a digital wallet that can facilitate that age check - I would for someone to make a social media with only verified people living in EU. Why do…
I don't understand how you can see it as okay from the point of view of European culture though. Age verification requires treating a website, not as some random person, but as a platform which has control of content and some responsibility. Age verification requires giving websites information that they should not have. Surely the European perspective should be that it is not Reddit's business whether I am 50 or 15.…
Most countries including USA have Indecent Exposure laws, prohibiting women for example from flashing their breasts on the street.
Yet somehow online adult women are able to "flash" homemade videos of them making sex with multiple partners, and you somehow think it's ok for children age 11 to view this with no responsibility on reddit's part?
Also most countries limit what children can do. It's illegal to drink even when you are 20 in USA. Why do we think children are mature enough when they are 11 to view unmoderated usergenerated content on tiktok? Many made by 18+ people driven by commercial interest and many of these videos dangerous for children (for example many challanges, where kids die after trying to do them).
Obviously one can have this kind of naive liberalism view, that anything goes. I personally don't and that's why I shared my comment.
I love this. I don't think children should be seeing what they can see on the Internet (we limit what movies or games they can buy, but hey - you can go online and watch hardcore porn, or people getting killed on video even when you are 12). I also love that EU is working on a digital wallet that can facilitate that age check - I would for someone to make a social media with only verified people living in EU. Why do…
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They'll just ban those
They probably won't be able to. There's a legal right to end-to-end encryption and there's nothing preventing you from making a system look like HTTPS.
Did you hear about the Great Firewall?
And they just have to say it's to protect "the children"/"democracy"/"to fight disinformation"/"hate speech". You can't beat politics with technology.
Right, because age verification has totally put a stop to underage drinking and drug use. Q: If I am a teenager wanting to access content that is prohibited by age verification, who is mostly likely the party that will provide access? A: The local drug dealer or extremist. This means a new market is born.
I don't really have time to go deeply into this, but here is your official government source saying that age limit for alcohol works by limiting deaths etc from alcohol use for people under 21
https://www.cdc.gov/alcohol/underage-drinking/minimum-legal-...
Dunno, unless it's like, a bank or government service, no one is getting a copy of my ID or CC just so I can view their fkin website. I guess I'll just use the web even less than I already do. Oh yeah and despite all this BS security theatre to "protect the children", teenagers will still find ways to connect with whoever they want to and find whatever content they want online. Source: I was a 12-year-old with dialup…
> Dunno, unless it's like, a bank or government service, no one is getting a copy of my ID or CC just so I can view their fkin website. Same, companies underestimate how interested I am in using their websites. Last month I uninstalled instagram because it asked me to pay or get more ads, every other post was already either an ad or a promotional post, I left. The vast majority of websites are already unusable or ful…
I love this. I don't think children should be seeing what they can see on the Internet (we limit what movies or games they can buy, but hey - you can go online and watch hardcore porn, or people getting killed on video even when you are 12). I also love that EU is working on a digital wallet that can facilitate that age check - I would for someone to make a social media with only verified people living in EU. Why do…
We’re still on hacker news, right? When did any control function installed by our parents or schools ever limit us?
More importantly: where are the restrictions on addictive social media? Where we have documented evidence of harm being done?
Right, because age verification has totally put a stop to underage drinking and drug use. Q: If I am a teenager wanting to access content that is prohibited by age verification, who is mostly likely the party that will provide access? A: The local drug dealer or extremist. This means a new market is born.