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Re: Apple lacks strategic vision

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Well, as we speak, Apple is still one of the most valuable companies in the world, shareholder-value-wise and (most importantly) consumer-preference-wise. So, being an absolute Apple-skeptic, I don't blame them for not having a crystal-clear future direction right now. VR/AR? Nah, probably not happening. AI? Probably huge, but in which direction? Who knows? And they've got products in all these markets, just not obvi…

The same things Intel said 10 years ago.

Intel is not in the same business as Apple.

Re: Apple lacks strategic vision

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They put the manufacturing and supply chain expert in charge, and that’s what they excel at now. But they lost Jobs and Ive, so now they don’t have the imagination, vision, and design expertise anymore.

They did make an attempt with the vision glasses, but it obviously flopped.

They succeeded for so long with top-down direction because the top had ideas. I think the best move would be to allow for more bottom-up direction. Give the engineers and designers license to run wild a bit.

Re: Apple lacks strategic vision

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There are a few hiccups, but everyone'e acting like Apple Silicon wasn't one of the most wildly successful overnight improvements in laptops in the last 50 years and that airpods aren't so popular that even Android phone users buy them.

Facts. I switched to Mac primarily because of the CPU. Look at the state of Intel...

Re: Apple lacks strategic vision

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There are a few hiccups, but everyone'e acting like Apple Silicon wasn't one of the most wildly successful overnight improvements in laptops in the last 50 years and that airpods aren't so popular that even Android phone users buy them.

It makes a lot of strategic sense but if you have so much money on the bank, then who wouldn't buy a silicon design firm to design your CPUs in house? I bet everyone here on HN would have suggested to do that if asked in a board meeting. The big surprise was how long it took Apple to bite the bullet.

Anyway, despite this, Apple still has their castle built in someone else's kingdom, namely TSMC.

Re: Apple lacks strategic vision

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Apple has a great chance of being the personal AI machines.

If they managed to add inference chip that competes with Groq and similar hardware, they would make much bigger wins comparing to main their own models.

Imagine being able to run 32B reasoning models with hundreds of tokens per second on your local laptop.

Re: Apple lacks strategic vision

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There are a few hiccups, but everyone'e acting like Apple Silicon wasn't one of the most wildly successful overnight improvements in laptops in the last 50 years and that airpods aren't so popular that even Android phone users buy them.

Both of these products could be expected from any well run company. They are both very polished versions of something that already existed. The direction to optimize in was already clear. No one wants to compare Apple to a generic well run company, they want to compare Apple to itself a decade or two ago.

Others have said that if Jobs were still alive, AR would be ubiquitous by now, and everyone would have a stylish pair of Apple glasses. I think that is exactly right.

Instead there is an incredibly expensive VR scuba mask, with relatively little adoption. It's certainly not changing the way we use physical spaces and transforming society, which is something a previous Apple could have pulled off. Users and developers need to be shown how to get value from something radically new, and Apple hasn't done that recently.

Re: Apple lacks strategic vision

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There are a few hiccups, but everyone'e acting like Apple Silicon wasn't one of the most wildly successful overnight improvements in laptops in the last 50 years and that airpods aren't so popular that even Android phone users buy them.

That was 5 years ago and the chips themselves are much older than that. They can't skate on that forever, especially since the competition caught up.

Re: Apple lacks strategic vision

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There are a few hiccups, but everyone'e acting like Apple Silicon wasn't one of the most wildly successful overnight improvements in laptops in the last 50 years and that airpods aren't so popular that even Android phone users buy them.

Yeah everyone complains about how Apple don’t “innovate” but currently they are just focussing on making the best consumer hardware of all time. Don’t get me wrong I dislike them for other reasons but those reasons are mainly things Jobs pushed for decades ago. An Apple fan should love the current Apple

> focussing on making the best consumer hardware of all time

Yes, but what use is the best consumer hardware when the software is degrading?

Considering the liquid glass thing, there's no one at Apple left who understands and cares about usability, for example.

Plus the iOSification of Mac OS for no good reason... maybe to make it less attractive to developers?

Re: Apple lacks strategic vision

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post #8

Well, as we speak, Apple is still one of the most valuable companies in the world, shareholder-value-wise and (most importantly) consumer-preference-wise. So, being an absolute Apple-skeptic, I don't blame them for not having a crystal-clear future direction right now. VR/AR? Nah, probably not happening. AI? Probably huge, but in which direction? Who knows? And they've got products in all these markets, just not obvi…

The same things Intel said 10 years ago.

The difference is Intel actually has direct competitors in their market.

Apple doesn’t. They created a market for products with a deep vertical integration of software and hardware. And they do it at enormous scale.

Google, Microsoft, and Amazon are the closest competitors but they license their software and have to compete on hardware across many products.

Re: Apple lacks strategic vision

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I don’t see a compelling reason for Apple to jump into the AI game. The MacBook Pro M4 is a dream to work with, and it works great with Claude Code. Creating quality products is a niche market, but that strategy still has merit.

I think it's a combination of three things:

1) AI threatens to take-over how you use your phone, it threatens to reduce apps to an API that it will use on your behalf so you don't use the apps yourself

2) By doing that it commoditizes the hardware because the software experience is virtually identical across platforms, you say make a dinner reservation and it doesn't matter what calendar you use, what restaurant app etc

3) Apple is no longer assured to be able to gatekeep or ban these things so if they aren't producing the most useful or entrenched assistant someone else could become people's primary interface for iPhones

There's a lot of parallel with "super apps" -

> Apple’s fear of super apps is based on first-hand experience with enormously popular super apps in Asia. Apple does not want U.S. companies and U.S. users to benefit from similar innovations. For example, in a Board of Directors presentation, Apple highlighted the “[u]ndifferentiated user experience on [a] super platform” as a “major headwind” to growing iPhone sales in countries with popular super apps due to the “[l]ow stickiness” and “[l]ow switching cost.” For the same reasons, a super app created by a U.S. company would pose a similar threat to Apple’s smartphone dominance in the United States. Apple noted as a risk in 2017 that a potential super app created by a specific U.S. company would “replace[ ] usage of native OS and apps resulting in commoditization of smartphone hardware.”

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.njd.544...

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