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North Korea sent him abroad to be a secret IT worker

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Re: North Korea sent him abroad to be a secret IT worker

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But are they any good? I suppose they must be, as they seem to retain their jobs, but how do they rank overall?

Also, I tend to think that maintaining these interactions going might be a way to let more information into Naughty Korea and might actually have a positive influence in the long run.

Re: North Korea sent him abroad to be a secret IT worker

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post #21

But are they any good? I suppose they must be, as they seem to retain their jobs, but how do they rank overall? Also, I tend to think that maintaining these interactions going might be a way to let more information into Naughty Korea and might actually have a positive influence in the long run.

The risk is not the quality of the work that the person might do. The risk is that you now have a state-controlled North Korean asset operating inside your security perimeter.

Re: North Korea sent him abroad to be a secret IT worker

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They probably hoped that the remaining 15% was just enough to keep the workers from defecting. That combined with the threat to brutally torture and kill their family that remained in North Korea were probably pretty effective motivators to stay loyal to the regime.

No. They don't need to worry about defections. Unless the guy really wants condemn his whole extended family and next 7 generations into labor camps.

some NK do choose that option

Re: North Korea sent him abroad to be a secret IT worker

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perfect example of why you shouldn’t bother hiring these cheap offshore engineers. you’re hiring an engineer thousands of miles away in another country for a fraction of the cost of an American engineer and you just assume they can be trusted with access to your most sensitive data and systems? And that they even are who they say they are and not just a frontman for some cabal?

How trustworthy is that American?

You know that the North Korean is untrustworthy, but that's kind of a special case. Is a random American more trustworthy than a random Bangladeshi or Slovakian?

I suppose that you have a bit more ability to do background checks on US citizens. But those background checks aren't so great, either.

Re: North Korea sent him abroad to be a secret IT worker

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post #25

perfect example of why you shouldn’t bother hiring these cheap offshore engineers. you’re hiring an engineer thousands of miles away in another country for a fraction of the cost of an American engineer and you just assume they can be trusted with access to your most sensitive data and systems? And that they even are who they say they are and not just a frontman for some cabal?

How trustworthy is that American? You know that the North Korean is untrustworthy, but that's kind of a special case. Is a random American more trustworthy than a random Bangladeshi or Slovakian? I suppose that you have a bit more ability to do background checks on US citizens. But those background checks aren't so great, either.

A random person in your own country is more trustworthy for two reasons.

1. background checks 2. more ability to meet face to face. 3. ability to go after them for wrongdoing (either civil cases or chances of getting the police to follow up on anything criminal.

Re: North Korea sent him abroad to be a secret IT worker

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. They don't need to worry about defections. Unless the guy really wants condemn his whole extended family and next 7 generations into labor camps.

Its quite presumptuous to assume that 1. Every citizen will have ties or family to -think of- 2. The current regime (which is now on its third generation) will last 7 generations more. 3. You have any descendants at all

I admit this is a presumption, but I doubt they send people out without leverage of some sort.
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