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GPT might be an information virus (2023)

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Re: GPT might be an information virus (2023)

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Post by righthand »

ayaros wrote: post #17
DaveZale wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A few years ago, some talk briefly circulated about local internet efforts, possibly run by public libraries. Local news coverage has really suffered these past several years. Wouldn't it be great to see relevant local news emerge again, written by humans for humans? That approach might be a good start. Use a cloud service that forbids AI bot scraping to protect copyright?

This doesn't seem to be structured differently than a standard-fare social media app. All the same issues with human verification on those apps would apply to this too. Unless you mean a platform only for vetted local journalists...

Tie the account to the Library Card and then you can open it up to anyone.

Re: GPT might be an information virus (2023)

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Post by MPSimmons »

ayaros wrote: post #8

We're going to have to go in the opposite direction and rely on directories or lists of verified human-made/accurate content. It will be like the old days of yahoo and web-indexes all over again.

I had the thought the other day that one of the most valuable things a human-driven website could offer would be a webring linking to other human-driven websites

Re: GPT might be an information virus (2023)

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Post by rolph »

XorNot wrote: post #14
crimsoneer wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is how the church felt about the printing press.

Who is "the Church" in this analogy?

refers to the gutenberg press, and mass production of printed works, threatening the siloed, ivory towers of knowledge at the time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Printing_press#Gutenberg.27s_p...

if everyone has a bible, then who needs the church to tell you what it says.

Re: GPT might be an information virus (2023)

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Post by brookst »

XorNot wrote: post #14
crimsoneer wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is how the church felt about the printing press.

Who is "the Church" in this analogy?

People who consider themselves exceptionally smart, who are well educated and write well, who only ever need to communicate in their native tongue ye, and who have the luxury of investing time in developing a personal writing style.

It is a good analogy. There is great concern that the unwashed masses won’t know how to handle this tool and will produce information today’s curators would not approve of.

Re: GPT might be an information virus (2023)

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Post by brookst »

boredatoms wrote: post #11
anthk wrote: post #6

There are public sources of information such as a curated WIkipedia, open content from Kiwix, Gutenberg Math books and OpenStreetMap for maps. Better, you can download offline and curated version of these so anyone can have a working snapshot anytime. That's good to avoid future AI tamperings. As long as these as AI free, we are potentialy in the right direction.

We can only trust a snapshot from pre AI years, eventually everything will be contaminated

s/AI/internet

Re: GPT might be an information virus (2023)

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Post by makk »

andy99 wrote: post #5

I think it is an information virus, but differently - it's homogenized everything, and made people dumber and lazier. It's poisoned public and professional discourse by reducing writing and thinking from the richness of humanity to one narrow style with a tiny latent space, and simultaneously convinced people that this is what good writing looks like. And it's erased thought from board classes of endeavor. This virus…

It hasn't homogenized everything. It's further exposed humans for who they are. Humans are the virus.

Re: GPT might be an information virus (2023)

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Post by mensetmanusman »

makk wrote: post #27
andy99 wrote: post #5

I think it is an information virus, but differently - it's homogenized everything, and made people dumber and lazier. It's poisoned public and professional discourse by reducing writing and thinking from the richness of humanity to one narrow style with a tiny latent space, and simultaneously convinced people that this is what good writing looks like. And it's erased thought from board classes of endeavor. This virus…

It hasn't homogenized everything. It's further exposed humans for who they are. Humans are the virus.

(1999)

Re: GPT might be an information virus (2023)

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Post by mensetmanusman »

crimsoneer wrote: post #13
andy99 wrote: post #5

I think it is an information virus, but differently - it's homogenized everything, and made people dumber and lazier. It's poisoned public and professional discourse by reducing writing and thinking from the richness of humanity to one narrow style with a tiny latent space, and simultaneously convinced people that this is what good writing looks like. And it's erased thought from board classes of endeavor. This virus…

This is how the church felt about the printing press.

This analogy is going places.

Re: GPT might be an information virus (2023)

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Post by jvm___ »

makk wrote: post #27
andy99 wrote: post #5

I think it is an information virus, but differently - it's homogenized everything, and made people dumber and lazier. It's poisoned public and professional discourse by reducing writing and thinking from the richness of humanity to one narrow style with a tiny latent space, and simultaneously convinced people that this is what good writing looks like. And it's erased thought from board classes of endeavor. This virus…

It hasn't homogenized everything. It's further exposed humans for who they are. Humans are the virus.

Agent Smith had it right when he was interviewing Morpheus in the Matrix.
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