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Google's shortened goo.gl links will stop working next month

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Re: Google's shortened goo.gl links will stop working next month

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About 60k academic citations about to die - https://scholar.google.com/scholar?start=90&q=%22https://goo... Countless books with irrevocably broken references - https://www.google.com/search?q=%22://goo.gl%22&sca_upv=1&sc... And for what? The cost of keeping a few TB online and a little bit of CPU power? An absolute act of cultural vandalism.

The vandalism was relying on Google.

The web is a crap architecture for permanent references anyway. A link points to a server, not e.g. a content hash.

The simplicity of the web is one of its virtues but also leaves a lot on the table.

Re: Google's shortened goo.gl links will stop working next month

#23
post #2

About 60k academic citations about to die - https://scholar.google.com/scholar?start=90&q=%22https://goo... Countless books with irrevocably broken references - https://www.google.com/search?q=%22://goo.gl%22&sca_upv=1&sc... And for what? The cost of keeping a few TB online and a little bit of CPU power? An absolute act of cultural vandalism.

Jm2c, but if your resource is a link to an online resource that's borderline already (at any point the content can be changed or disappear).

Even worse if your resource is a shortened link by some other service, you've just added yet another layer of unreliable indirection.

Re: Google's shortened goo.gl links will stop working next month

#24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The right question is "how much total value do all of the links provide", not "what percent are used". Yes, but it doesn't bring in the sweet promotion home, unfortunately. Ironically, if 99% of them doesn't see any traffic, you can scale back the infra, run it in 2 VMs, and make sure a single person can keep it up as a side quest, just for fun (but, of course, pay them for their work). This beancounting really mak…

> just for fun (but, of course, pay them for their work). Doing things for fun isn't in Google's remit

It used to be. AdSense came from 20% time!

Re: Google's shortened goo.gl links will stop working next month

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The right question is "how much total value do all of the links provide", not "what percent are used". Yes, but it doesn't bring in the sweet promotion home, unfortunately. Ironically, if 99% of them doesn't see any traffic, you can scale back the infra, run it in 2 VMs, and make sure a single person can keep it up as a side quest, just for fun (but, of course, pay them for their work). This beancounting really mak…

> just for fun (but, of course, pay them for their work). Doing things for fun isn't in Google's remit

Alas, it was, once upon a time.

Re: Google's shortened goo.gl links will stop working next month

#27
Google’s own services generate goo.gl short URLs (Google Maps generates https://maps.app.goo.gl/ URLs for sharing links to map locations), so I assume this shutdown only affects user-generated short URLs. Google’s original announcement doesn’t say as such, but it is carefully worded to specify that short URLs of the “https://goo.gl/* format” will be shut down.

Google’s probably trying to stop goo.gl URLs from being used for phishing, but doesn’t want to admit that publicly.

Re: Google's shortened goo.gl links will stop working next month

#28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It will include many URLs that are semi-private, like Google Docs that are shared via link.

So exclude them

How?

How will they know a short link to a random PDF on S3 is potentially sensitive info?

Re: Google's shortened goo.gl links will stop working next month

#30
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From the blog post: "more than 99% of them had no activity in the last month" https://developers.googleblog.com/en/google-url-shortener-li... This is a classic product data decision-making fallacy. The right question is "how much total value do all of the links provide", not "what percent are used".

> The right question is "how much total value do all of the links provide", not "what percent are used". Yes, but it doesn't bring in the sweet promotion home, unfortunately. Ironically, if 99% of them doesn't see any traffic, you can scale back the infra, run it in 2 VMs, and make sure a single person can keep it up as a side quest, just for fun (but, of course, pay them for their work). This beancounting really mak…

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