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Building MCP servers for ChatGPT and API integrations

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Re: Building MCP servers for ChatGPT and API integrations

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I find the state of MCPs with OpenAI quite confusing: - As an end-user, you can connect MCPs only with `search` and `fetch` that only work in deep research mode. - As a developer, you can use MCP with the API and that supports the full set of MCP tools - all tools become available; this shows in the dev playground. - For Custom GPTs, they support any action, but not MCPs. So if you had a layer to translate MCP to the…

It feels like they don’t have a good product strategy that matches their engineering throughput.

Re: Building MCP servers for ChatGPT and API integrations

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I love how they don't actually explain why I (or anyone else) would ever implement their API. Given how disastrous the AI 'industry' has been, between misappropriating data from customers, performing actions on behalf of customers that lead to data and/or financial loss, and then seeking protection from the law in one or more cases of these, isn't providing an MCP service essentially requiring you to notify customers…

Ah yes, “disastrous” not quoted but felt the need to put into quotation “industry” as if it’s not the biggest shift that has happened in your entire lifetime. That is intellectually dishonest and incongruent with the reality that you live in

They said the same thing about crypto. We're still transacting in fiat.

Re: Building MCP servers for ChatGPT and API integrations

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Has something changed? That seems to be the same page they've had for a couple of months. It's only for deep research mode, and is restricted to Pro and Enterprise.

Same. I thought it’s now available for Plus, but apparently not the case

It’s disappointing they are gating this and browser agent for $100 users, and even for 100, it’s only two tool methods.

Re: Building MCP servers for ChatGPT and API integrations

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah yes, “disastrous” not quoted but felt the need to put into quotation “industry” as if it’s not the biggest shift that has happened in your entire lifetime. That is intellectually dishonest and incongruent with the reality that you live in

They said the same thing about crypto. We're still transacting in fiat.

i guess the big difference is normal people are using LLM’s now in the form of google search AI overview, chatgpt, etc. Do you know “normal” people that use crypto for buying and selling goods?

I know 0. And i work in tech lol.

Re: Building MCP servers for ChatGPT and API integrations

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post #8

Has something changed? That seems to be the same page they've had for a couple of months. It's only for deep research mode, and is restricted to Pro and Enterprise.

I thought the same, a possible change from past might be the detailed data leakage and attack explanations?

Eg how I described here a while ago: https://x.com/wunderwuzzi23/status/1930899939737166075?s=46&...

Ironically, I have a blog post drafted that explains this also in detail, and should probably still publish it.

Re: Building MCP servers for ChatGPT and API integrations

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah yes, “disastrous” not quoted but felt the need to put into quotation “industry” as if it’s not the biggest shift that has happened in your entire lifetime. That is intellectually dishonest and incongruent with the reality that you live in

They said the same thing about crypto. We're still transacting in fiat.

This boring comparison keeps being made but you’re orders of magnitude off in terms of adoption and investment already in a few years time. What a lazy observation parroted by someone that literally can’t see the reality that they live in. To spout off such inane nonsense on hackernews of all places, the place where almost every project is now an AI project is incredible levels of mental gymnastics

Re: Building MCP servers for ChatGPT and API integrations

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They said the same thing about crypto. We're still transacting in fiat.

i guess the big difference is normal people are using LLM’s now in the form of google search AI overview, chatgpt, etc. Do you know “normal” people that use crypto for buying and selling goods? I know 0. And i work in tech lol.

That's not the "big difference" you're looking for, though. I'm the tech person in the lives of many normal people, and they ask me, "Hey, why does Google search suck now? How do I turn off this AI thing that keeps giving wrong information?", as if I know some magic secret switch to turn that off (adding udm=14 to the query URL is too difficult for normal people).

I don't hear anything from people I actually know who are exposed to this stuff being like, "Oh my God, this has massively improved my life and I can't live without it!" No its stuff like, "How do I uninstall Siri off my iPhone? It doesn't work right anymore and can't understand me, and keeps turning itself back on when there is an iOS update."

I don't think any amount of marketing is going to change the fact that the service doesn't work and isn't up to user expectations.

It's undercooked and now its too late to put it back in the oven, so to speak.

Re: Building MCP servers for ChatGPT and API integrations

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

i guess the big difference is normal people are using LLM’s now in the form of google search AI overview, chatgpt, etc. Do you know “normal” people that use crypto for buying and selling goods? I know 0. And i work in tech lol.

That's not the "big difference" you're looking for, though. I'm the tech person in the lives of many normal people, and they ask me, "Hey, why does Google search suck now? How do I turn off this AI thing that keeps giving wrong information?", as if I know some magic secret switch to turn that off (adding udm=14 to the query URL is too difficult for normal people). I don't hear anything from people I actually know who…

Google search has sucked for years, even before the AI stuff was added. To be brutally honest. My personal complaint with google search is that the AI overview is pushed prominently. The overview itself is not bad, especially if you’re just trying to look up something quickly that’s not that important. For example “which two colors make purple?” or “how far is NY from SF?” Expecting it to be 100% factually correct is an issue, and should not be relied on. But google doesn’t prominently point out that AI can make mistakes. Hence the user expectation problem…

And siri has been junk for years too. Not sure what LLM’s have to do with that. Siri activates via a machine learning model that runs on device, which listens for a “wake word”, and that tech has been around for 10 years at this point. It’s possible apple messed up their machine learning model in a recent update? Idk :) But that’s unrelated to LLM’s.

I agree hype has gone out of control! the tech companies are over-promising. Expectations are too high, like you said. That doesn’t mean LLM’s are useless like crypto though. It’s early days still. Crypto is not useful to _any_ normal person, unless you live in a handful of countries with crazy inflation, or you’re a crypto nerd, or you’re trying to move dirty money around.

But all of this is useful to almost anyone:

- quickly summarize a recipe online, removing all the junk ads from the website.

- Brainstorming a quick travel itinerary (as a starting point) in 5 seconds.

- Getting a quick layman’s understanding of a topic you’re unfamiliar in.

- teens can brainstorm career paths. (tell an llm what they are good at, what they enjoy, and what they dislike)

- need to find a product online (tool, part, etc), but don’t know what it’s called? Describe it to an LLM! Then start your google search journey.

All of that is genuinely useful i think? IMO you’re conflating the _tech_, with how it’s being pushed onto the masses by the tech giants (siri, google search, etc).

Re: Building MCP servers for ChatGPT and API integrations

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not the "big difference" you're looking for, though. I'm the tech person in the lives of many normal people, and they ask me, "Hey, why does Google search suck now? How do I turn off this AI thing that keeps giving wrong information?", as if I know some magic secret switch to turn that off (adding udm=14 to the query URL is too difficult for normal people). I don't hear anything from people I actually know who…

Google search has sucked for years, even before the AI stuff was added. To be brutally honest. My personal complaint with google search is that the AI overview is pushed prominently. The overview itself is not bad, especially if you’re just trying to look up something quickly that’s not that important. For example “which two colors make purple?” or “how far is NY from SF?” Expecting it to be 100% factually correct is…

Apple recently removed the old Siri backend service and replaced it with "Apple Intelligence", which farms the requests out to whoever Apple is partnering with to provide inference. When this switch happened, it basically broke every user's phone if they relied on Siri.

I'm glad I'm on Android. I can just uninstall Google Assistant, which did the same transformation into a Gemini frontend. I wasn't using Assistant at all, so it isn't a meaningful loss for me.

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