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How to Catch a Wily Poacher in a Sting: A Thermal Robotic Deer

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Re: How to Catch a Wily Poacher in a Sting: A Thermal Robotic Deer

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Post by potato3732842 »

whartung wrote: post #19
fn-mote wrote: post #14

The idea that deer need to be protected is hilarious. All around the Midwest (USA) you can see obvious signs of deer overpopulation. Every doe gives birth to twins. The understory in the forest is bare. This guy is selling 60 deer decoys a year? The DNR is just playing a power game. If the focus of the article were about poaching an animal that isn’t as common as mice, I would be more sympathetic. Instead it seems li…

I don't know, I'm not there, not my world. But I would think the goal is to reduce the number of poachers. Poaching being a mind set, a criminal behavior, regardless of that actual animal they're harvesting. If someone is willing to poach deer, perhaps it's a gateway to poaching something more vulnerable. Learning how to avoid the game wardens, building an "underground" community. Similarly, if the deer are that plen…

>But I would think the goal is to reduce the number of poachers. Poaching being a mind set, a criminal behavior, regardless of that actual animal they're harvesting. If someone is willing to poach deer, perhaps it's a gateway to poaching something more vulnerable. Learning how to avoid the game wardens, building an "underground" community.

This is the exact same argument that caused a lot of teenagers to get locked up over a plant in the 90s.

I am less than un-moved by it.

If people want to blast a doe out of season off their porch with no tags I have no problem with it so long as they are doing so in places where the population can support that behavior.

Re: How to Catch a Wily Poacher in a Sting: A Thermal Robotic Deer

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Post by trhway »

Now lets do a robotic rhinos and elephants. Upon detection of a shot and a specific place it came from (using radar and sound sensor) the robot turns and starts to run in in that direction unleashing a salvo from a range of weapons - from non-lethal 96GHz direct energy and infra-red sound to water cannon to rubber bullets to RPG shots with sound and light grenades ... That is for the first time offenders. If face recognition detects second-time offender - lethal weapons applied, automatic rifle, RPG with real grenades, fire throwers. Also the robot can launch drones and there is a gamut of opportunities here...

>Barring a direct shot to the circuitry, the decoys can last five to 10 years.

simple [body] armor plates should do here.

Re: How to Catch a Wily Poacher in a Sting: A Thermal Robotic Deer

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Post by rolph »

fn-mote wrote: post #14

The idea that deer need to be protected is hilarious. All around the Midwest (USA) you can see obvious signs of deer overpopulation. Every doe gives birth to twins. The understory in the forest is bare. This guy is selling 60 deer decoys a year? The DNR is just playing a power game. If the focus of the article were about poaching an animal that isn’t as common as mice, I would be more sympathetic. Instead it seems li…

usually these kind of stings are not about poaching in the classic sense, its about basic safety, like not shooting; on; along; or across a road, so they set it up somewhere in that zone considered "along" the road, and wait for someone to start setting up for a shot.

Re: How to Catch a Wily Poacher in a Sting: A Thermal Robotic Deer

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Post by throwaway81523 »

comrade1234 wrote: post #7
qualeed wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the dnr has been nore and more effective What is "dnr"? I tried googling, but I just get "do not resuscitate".

Department of natural resources. They monitor hunters, fishing, etc. They've been using deer mannequins for decades to catch poachers and they're getting more sophisticated now with internal heat sources in order to handle poachers with night vision.

Interesting. I am under the impression that regular hunting with night vision is banned. I can understand that it's no longer a sport if yo do enough stuff like that. Next would be armed drones.

Re: How to Catch a Wily Poacher in a Sting: A Thermal Robotic Deer

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Post by squidgyhead »

fn-mote wrote: post #14

The idea that deer need to be protected is hilarious. All around the Midwest (USA) you can see obvious signs of deer overpopulation. Every doe gives birth to twins. The understory in the forest is bare. This guy is selling 60 deer decoys a year? The DNR is just playing a power game. If the focus of the article were about poaching an animal that isn’t as common as mice, I would be more sympathetic. Instead it seems li…

I am not familiar with poaching issues in the USA, but in Canada, one isn't allowed to hunt too close to roads; doing otherwise is poaching. It seems reasonable to not discharge firearms next to public roads, so stopping poachers who do so is a great use case here.

Re: How to Catch a Wily Poacher in a Sting: A Thermal Robotic Deer

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Post by mtnGoat »

There was an old farmer in my town that had a steel deer decoy on a hill up the road from his house, poachers would shoot it, not knowing he would hear the sound, shut his gate then call law enforcement on them as there was no other way out.

I always appreciated the cleverness of this.

Re: How to Catch a Wily Poacher in a Sting: A Thermal Robotic Deer

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Post by jaredhallen »

mtnGoat wrote: post #26

There was an old farmer in my town that had a steel deer decoy on a hill up the road from his house, poachers would shoot it, not knowing he would hear the sound, shut his gate then call law enforcement on them as there was no other way out. I always appreciated the cleverness of this.

Seems pretty bold to drive through someone's gate to poach.

Re: How to Catch a Wily Poacher in a Sting: A Thermal Robotic Deer

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Post by mtnGoat »

jaredhallen wrote: post #27
mtnGoat wrote: post #26

There was an old farmer in my town that had a steel deer decoy on a hill up the road from his house, poachers would shoot it, not knowing he would hear the sound, shut his gate then call law enforcement on them as there was no other way out. I always appreciated the cleverness of this.

Seems pretty bold to drive through someone's gate to poach.

The road was technically public and crossed his land, but was a dead end.

Re: How to Catch a Wily Poacher in a Sting: A Thermal Robotic Deer

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Post by tehwebguy »

shellfishgene wrote: post #29

Is this not "entrapment"? I thought this was illegal, like setting up a unsecured bike to catch bike thieves.

No, and the general rule is that it’s never entrapment. I don’t know how people get the idea that either of those scenarios would be entrapment.

It’s still not your bike, why would you be permitted to steal it just because a cop left it somewhere?

(I say this as someone who seriously disagrees with the outrageous powers that wildlife cops and regular cops have)

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