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Ok, but please don't post generic flamebait yourself. It's just as against the site guidelines either way: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.
I'm tired of talking about AI
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Re: I'm tired of talking about AI
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
Calling people who have legitimate grievances over a new technology "Luddites", as if the Luddites were stupid assholes, makes me absolutely sick with sadness for the impact on people in my society. It's a lazy, tremendously over-used metaphor, and you can disagree with an opinion without this low-effort inhumanity.
If you could point to a single instance in human history where the "Luddites" of the day proved right in the long run by literally attacking technology, it might help you make your case for rehabilitating them. Or at least it might serve as an interesting basis for discussion.
Sure - the Luddites were correct.
Unless you're defining "correct" as "stopped the development of a disruptive technology", which would be, of course, ignorant.
Edit: The post I'm replying to was edited to redefine the context to be the defense of Luddites specifically for destroying machines. I may have used different words/tone in that case, but my opinion is still qualitatively the same. Just know I am speaking holistically.
Edit: To be more specific (and less snide): Inevitability does not making something universally good, and people negatively affected are correct and justified to react negatively.
Re: I'm tired of talking about AI
#23try this https://www.reddit.com/r/Jokes/
Two men and an AI walk into a bar ...
The AI orders a bleach on the rocks
The bartender: that's not a real drink
AI: You're absolutely right! I see now that the drink is not real. I'll have a bleach in a glass with ice
The two men leave, knowing that watching this interaction is making them stupider and taking them away from tasty drinks elsewhere
Re: I'm tired of talking about AI
#24AI seems to elicit a different response from people than any other debate I can remember. It's different to blockchain (which had a similar level of "will you all just shut the fuck up about it?") It's different to culture war stuff (which was very toxic and hard to have sensible discussions about - but in a different way). It's the only topic in my lifetime where I have to remember not to even mention it to several…
IMHO, if bitcoin mining had given some people $10MM and debited other people $10, but each one at random, no matter what --temperature= was provided to the mining CLI, you'd have likely seen the same discussion
> It's making me rich! It's making me poor! Well then you're holding it wrong! Well you're spending electricity on senseless compute! Well you're just living in a fiat past!
(nod)
Re: I'm tired of talking about AI
#25s/tired of//
Re: I'm tired of talking about AI
#26AI seems to elicit a different response from people than any other debate I can remember. It's different to blockchain (which had a similar level of "will you all just shut the fuck up about it?") It's different to culture war stuff (which was very toxic and hard to have sensible discussions about - but in a different way). It's the only topic in my lifetime where I have to remember not to even mention it to several…
To oversimplify: Because it's real.
Re: I'm tired of talking about AI
#27This article well summarizes where I have landed on AI. No tool ever created by humans is good at everything. Like all previous tools, it will be good at some things but not everything. The rest is hype. If you are over 25 you have seen hype come and go before. This is no different except that AI also can create a truly incredible amount of spam and probably should be regulated by the FCC for that alone.
Re: I'm tired of talking about AI
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
Calling people who have legitimate grievances over a new technology "Luddites", as if the Luddites were stupid assholes, makes me absolutely sick with sadness for the impact on people in my society. It's a lazy, tremendously over-used metaphor, and you can disagree with an opinion without this low-effort inhumanity.
If you could point to a single instance in human history where the "Luddites" of the day proved right in the long run by literally attacking technology, it might help you make your case for rehabilitating them. Or at least it might serve as an interesting basis for discussion.
>"Attack technology"
Nobody is blowing up data centers.
Re: I'm tired of talking about AI
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The original "Luddites" had very valid concerns about the impending reduction of quality of the clothing they were making and subsequent working conditions with the advent of automated looms. Likewise many people today, myself included, have very valid concerns about the actual use of AI, where it's going, and how it can and will be misused. We would love to have these discussions, but calling us "Luddites" and then…
> referencing a situation where a robot literally killed a child
Is this part of the deep Dune lore that I never read, or did they edit their comment?
Re: I'm tired of talking about AI
#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
The original "Luddites" had very valid concerns about the impending reduction of quality of the clothing they were making and subsequent working conditions with the advent of automated looms. Likewise many people today, myself included, have very valid concerns about the actual use of AI, where it's going, and how it can and will be misused. We would love to have these discussions, but calling us "Luddites" and then…
> referencing a situation where a robot literally killed a child Is this part of the deep Dune lore that I never read, or did they edit their comment?
Comment seems to be flagged and gone, but yes they referenced wanting a "Butlerian Jihad".