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Re: GPT-5-reasoning alpha found in the wild

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Post by torginus »

thm wrote: post #15
anonzzzies wrote: post #2

Look at those people shouting this will be AGI / total disruption etc. Seems Elon managed one thing; to amass the dumbest folks together. 99.99% maga, crypto and almost markov chain quality comments.

99% of AI influencers are the same people who emailed you pictures as a Word attachment a year ago.

This is what put me off Claude Code. When I wanted. To dig in, I tried to watch a few Youtube videos to see an expert's opinion it, and 90% people who talk about it feel like former crypto shills, who, from their channel history, seem like have never written a single line of code without AI in their lives.

Re: GPT-5-reasoning alpha found in the wild

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Post by Fade_Dance »

kasey_junk wrote: post #7
ImHereToVote wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe this won't be. How long do you think a machine will be able to outdo any human in any given domain? I personally think it will be after they are able to rewrite their own code. You?

They write their own code now so how long will it be?

Seems like this will be one of the areas that will improve with multi-agentic AI, where groups of agents can operate via consensus, check/test outputs, manage from a higher meta level, etc. Not that any of that would be "magic" but the advantages of expanding laterally to that approach seem fairly obvious when it comes to software development.

So in my eyes actually think it's probably more to do with reducing the cost of AI inference by another order of magnitude, at least when it comes to mass market tools. Existing basic code-generation tools from a single AI are already fairly expensive to run compute wise.

Re: GPT-5-reasoning alpha found in the wild

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Post by plemer »

torginus wrote: post #21
thm wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

99% of AI influencers are the same people who emailed you pictures as a Word attachment a year ago.

This is what put me off Claude Code. When I wanted. To dig in, I tried to watch a few Youtube videos to see an expert's opinion it, and 90% people who talk about it feel like former crypto shills, who, from their channel history, seem like have never written a single line of code without AI in their lives.

I get it, but have you reviewed high-quality sources or actually tried the product?

Association fallacy: “You know who else was a vegetarian? Hitler.”

Re: GPT-5-reasoning alpha found in the wild

#25

Post by haneul »

torginus wrote: post #21
thm wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

99% of AI influencers are the same people who emailed you pictures as a Word attachment a year ago.

This is what put me off Claude Code. When I wanted. To dig in, I tried to watch a few Youtube videos to see an expert's opinion it, and 90% people who talk about it feel like former crypto shills, who, from their channel history, seem like have never written a single line of code without AI in their lives.

As someone who doesn't keep track of the influencer scene at the moment because I am way addicted to building...

You should totally give Claude Code a try. The biggest problem is that it is glaze-optimized, so have to work at getting it to not treat you like the biggest genius of all time. But when you manage to get in a good flow with it, and your project is very predictably searchable, results start to be quite helpful, even if just to unstuck yourself when you're in a rut.

Re: GPT-5-reasoning alpha found in the wild

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Post by jug »

torginus wrote: post #21
thm wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

99% of AI influencers are the same people who emailed you pictures as a Word attachment a year ago.

This is what put me off Claude Code. When I wanted. To dig in, I tried to watch a few Youtube videos to see an expert's opinion it, and 90% people who talk about it feel like former crypto shills, who, from their channel history, seem like have never written a single line of code without AI in their lives.

It annoys me to experience the huge discrepancy between content on social media on AI versus actual enterprise use. AI is happening, it's absolutely becoming integral parts of many businesses including our own. But these guys are just doodling in MS Paint and they're flooding the channels.

Re: GPT-5-reasoning alpha found in the wild

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Post by threatripper »

ogogmad wrote: post #19
bawana wrote: post #13

Well i asked chatGPT IF i could run kimik2 on a 5800x 3d with 64 gigs of ram with a 3090 and it said: Yes, you absolutely can run Kimi-K2-Instruct on a PC with: :white_check_mark: CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D :white_check_mark: GPU: NVIDIA RTX 3090 (24 GB VRAM) :white_check_mark: RAM: 64 GB system memory This is more than sufficient for both: Loading and running the full Kimi-K2-Instruct model in FP16 or INT8, and Quanti…

Maybe you should use a reasoning model. Got this from O3, which took 1m31s to think about the answer: https://chatgpt.com/s/t_687b9221fb748191af4e30f597f18443 Bottom line: Your 5800X3D + 64 GB RAM + RTX 3090 will run Kimi K2’s 1.8‑bit build, but response times feel more like a leisurely typewriter than a snappy chatbot. If you want comfortable day‑to‑day use, plan either a RAM upgrade or a second (or bigger) GPU—or j…

I second this. o3 is pretty spot on while 4o answered exactly like what the parent got.

I rarely use 4o anymore for anything. Rather would I wait for o3 than quickly get a pile of rubbish.

Re: GPT-5-reasoning alpha found in the wild

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Post by sorokod »

thm wrote: post #15
anonzzzies wrote: post #2

Look at those people shouting this will be AGI / total disruption etc. Seems Elon managed one thing; to amass the dumbest folks together. 99.99% maga, crypto and almost markov chain quality comments.

99% of AI influencers are the same people who emailed you pictures as a Word attachment a year ago.

Golgafrincham Ark B, material.

https://hitchhikers.fandom.com/wiki/Golgafrincham

Re: GPT-5-reasoning alpha found in the wild

#29

Post by jug »

ogogmad wrote: post #19
bawana wrote: post #13

Well i asked chatGPT IF i could run kimik2 on a 5800x 3d with 64 gigs of ram with a 3090 and it said: Yes, you absolutely can run Kimi-K2-Instruct on a PC with: :white_check_mark: CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D :white_check_mark: GPU: NVIDIA RTX 3090 (24 GB VRAM) :white_check_mark: RAM: 64 GB system memory This is more than sufficient for both: Loading and running the full Kimi-K2-Instruct model in FP16 or INT8, and Quanti…

Maybe you should use a reasoning model. Got this from O3, which took 1m31s to think about the answer: https://chatgpt.com/s/t_687b9221fb748191af4e30f597f18443 Bottom line: Your 5800X3D + 64 GB RAM + RTX 3090 will run Kimi K2’s 1.8‑bit build, but response times feel more like a leisurely typewriter than a snappy chatbot. If you want comfortable day‑to‑day use, plan either a RAM upgrade or a second (or bigger) GPU—or j…

These cases are probably why OpenAI has stated GPT-4.1 is their last non reasoning model and GPT-5 will determine the need for and how much to reason based on the query.

Re: GPT-5-reasoning alpha found in the wild

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Post by threatripper »

anonzzzies wrote: post #2

Look at those people shouting this will be AGI / total disruption etc. Seems Elon managed one thing; to amass the dumbest folks together. 99.99% maga, crypto and almost markov chain quality comments.

We have to wait and test it ourselves to see how far it gets in our daily tasks. If the improvement continues like it did in the past, that would be pretty far. Not quite a full researcher position but an average student assistant for sure.
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