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Interesting, what evidence is there that people switch from e-cigarettes to tobacco? I hadn’t heard of that before.

Every single person I've known who switched from tobacco to e-cigarettes has switched back to tobacco. They all say it's better for one reason or another.

Former smokers switching back is one thing, but how often do people start out with vaping and then move to smoking tobacco?

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It is already known that E-Cigarettes cause lung damage: https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/wellness-and-preventi... On the rare occasions of exposure by a user exhaling in public next to me I found it worse than passively inhaling cigarette smoke.

Seems like Zyn is better for you and others.

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The candy flavors were marketed to children.

Who is 99 banana's and maddog 20/20 marketed to?

To be fair 99 Bananas still tastes like ass with a hint of incredible artificial banana.

Also the cultural aspect is just different. It is generally harder for kids to get alcohol in my experience and also you (usually) don’t carry a bottle of 99 bananas and swig it every few minutes out in public.

Perhaps most importantly is that alcohol doesn’t contain nicotine. People get addicted to alcohol but not in the same way people get addicted to nicotine.

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Do you mean why vapes aren't allowed to be sold in exciting flavours in a lot of countries? Because what happened there was that 'strawberry kiwi', 'banana ice', and 'miami mint', and whatever fruity flavour in a colourful package you can come up with, turned vaping from something adults did to quit smoking tobacco into the biggest hype amongst teenagers since fidget spinners. Only they get addicted to nicotine as a…

Interesting, what evidence is there that people switch from e-cigarettes to tobacco? I hadn’t heard of that before.

In the Netherlands the scientific Trimbos Institute has been reporting this based on their regular demographic research polls, but health care professionals are drawing this conclusion too. Near the end of high school vaping is something the kids do. To be really cool, you gotta smoke — and as this group of unfortunate kids is already addicted to nicotine…

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Let me preface by saying that I'm not a fan of the evolution of e-cigs since they ended up being more of an entry point than a transition out of nicotine. Probably half of my friends started by vaping and moved to cigarettes.

That said, tons of other vapes are allowed on the market, so why should Juul specifically be banned?

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Let me preface by saying that I'm not a fan of the evolution of e-cigs since they ended up being more of an entry point than a transition out of nicotine. Probably half of my friends started by vaping and moved to cigarettes. That said, tons of other vapes are allowed on the market, so why should Juul specifically be banned?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juul#US_Food_and_Drug_Administ...

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> ~ Original and Menthol I'll never understand why adults partaking in a particular vice can't enjoy different flavours (unless the vice is alcohol).

Do you mean why vapes aren't allowed to be sold in exciting flavours in a lot of countries? Because what happened there was that 'strawberry kiwi', 'banana ice', and 'miami mint', and whatever fruity flavour in a colourful package you can come up with, turned vaping from something adults did to quit smoking tobacco into the biggest hype amongst teenagers since fidget spinners. Only they get addicted to nicotine as a…

Vapes aren't just for adults to quit smoking tobacco. They're a nicotine-delivery system. It's a way to use a legal stimulant. The flavors would make it potentially more enjoyable.

I don't think vape kids are ever switching to tobacco - that doesn't fit the model that they want at all: its an electronic device that delivers a stimulant.

Why is alcohol something that's okay to market to kids? (The new supergirl is a drunk party girl). Isn't alcohol much more harmful?

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I'm sure loosening restrictions is all part of the Make America Healthy Again plan, right?

Restrictions placed by govt is not a part of MAHA, and is anti MAGA.

If the federal government can't implement and enforce restrictions then it has no authority at all.

Why do you think we have tariffs?

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