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Re: The Minecraft game score unexpectedly became big business for its composer

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Post by natebc »

schmorptron wrote: post #20
donatj wrote: post #6

It really annoys me that Microsoft brought in new composers. You're so insistent on "owning" the music you give up on a major part of what made the game what it is today.

I understand this, and also partially feel this way as in it's garbo that they won't allow the artists to own their work and are able to strongarm this due to the size of Minecraft. On the other hand, I like a lot of the new tracks they've added as well and Lena Raine and the others have done a great job capturing the vibe while not just ripping off C418.

Lena is an incredibly talented composer.

If anybody is curious: https://lena.fyi/

The Celeste soundtrack is wonderful: https://radicaldreamland.bandcamp.com/album/celeste-original...

Re: The Minecraft game score unexpectedly became big business for its composer

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Post by [deleted] »

Novosell wrote: post #18
sneak wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They require a Microsoft account. There was a period of time where you could port over your Mojang account, but I and many other people did not, because I didn't want a Microsoft account or to have to agree to the Microsoft Terms of Service, a new legal contract which didn't exist at the time I paid for Minecraft. It's a classic bait and switch. Then, the account migration window closed, and Mojang accounts stopped w…

Oh shit. It's been more than a decade since I played Minecraft but sounds like I, too, have lost my account then.

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Re: The Minecraft game score unexpectedly became big business for its composer

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Post by tialaramex »

sneak wrote: post #17
Novosell wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hmm? What'd they do to it?

They require a Microsoft account. There was a period of time where you could port over your Mojang account, but I and many other people did not, because I didn't want a Microsoft account or to have to agree to the Microsoft Terms of Service, a new legal contract which didn't exist at the time I paid for Minecraft. It's a classic bait and switch. Then, the account migration window closed, and Mojang accounts stopped w…

> There was a period of time where you could port over your Mojang account,

To be fair that was a fairly long period IIRC. And they really put some work into that last migration once they announced everything else is going away. Minecraft has all these legacy systems because nobody knew it would be huge, so during the Alpha and early Beta periods it's just whatever payment system they've cobbled together this week.

I'm still not sure if the scattered piles of emails, account names, IDs, passwords, receipt codes or other detritus eventually persuaded them I'm tialaramex or whether the fact I'm just very obviously tialaramex (it's gestured at in my email address, it's my HN account handle, if I ever tweeted, which I do not, I would be @tialaramex, it's everywhere) prevailed and so that's why I got my tialaramex Minecraft persona connected to whatever nonsense Microsoft have. But either way, once we reached the "Now a human is needed" step they were as helpful as you could ask given how cheap Minecraft was back when I bought it.

I think if you lost all contact for so long you weren't aware there was a migration it's not unreasonable to think if you suddenly regain interest you should pay for Minecraft. The current Minecraft is very different from what you last saw, albeit not in its essentials.

Re: The Minecraft game score unexpectedly became big business for its composer

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Post by Arainach »

pityJuke wrote: post #5

It is incredible how Minecraft, and the soundtrack in particular, was created by unknown part timers. A remix of Mice on Venus [0] is one of the few things that can make me cry on cue. There is something so powerful about it. Doesn’t help it is often used in Technoblade tributes because of this video. [1] [0]: https://youtube.com/watch?v=v1wMBrkUEFE [1]: https://youtube.com/watch?v=pPmo21gkETU

How often are video game soundtracks created by well known artists? Especially without AAA studio resources?

Have there been that many big names in the space? Nobuo Uematsu for JRPGs, Jeremy Soule, Yasunori Mitsuda....who else has done enough that many people would have a chance of knowing their name?

Re: The Minecraft game score unexpectedly became big business for its composer

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Post by sneak »

tialaramex wrote: post #23
sneak wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They require a Microsoft account. There was a period of time where you could port over your Mojang account, but I and many other people did not, because I didn't want a Microsoft account or to have to agree to the Microsoft Terms of Service, a new legal contract which didn't exist at the time I paid for Minecraft. It's a classic bait and switch. Then, the account migration window closed, and Mojang accounts stopped w…

> There was a period of time where you could port over your Mojang account, To be fair that was a fairly long period IIRC. And they really put some work into that last migration once they announced everything else is going away. Minecraft has all these legacy systems because nobody knew it would be huge, so during the Alpha and early Beta periods it's just whatever payment system they've cobbled together this week. I…

You are missing the point.

I was well aware of it. I don’t want a Microsoft account. I don’t do business with Microsoft.

Microsoft demanded that I agree to a new contract, the Microsoft Terms of Service, to which I do not and will not agree, to continue to use the game I already paid for.

This is called a bait-and-switch. I paid money, got the product, used the product, then they altered the deal, Vader style. Sign this new contract or you lose your game.

It’s bullshit any which way you slice it.

Arguably it’s Mojang’s fault for selling to such a shitty acquirer and betraying their customers, not that we need any more reasons to understand what a total piece of trash Notch is.

Re: The Minecraft game score unexpectedly became big business for its composer

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Post by rft »

Arainach wrote: post #24
pityJuke wrote: post #5

It is incredible how Minecraft, and the soundtrack in particular, was created by unknown part timers. A remix of Mice on Venus [0] is one of the few things that can make me cry on cue. There is something so powerful about it. Doesn’t help it is often used in Technoblade tributes because of this video. [1] [0]: https://youtube.com/watch?v=v1wMBrkUEFE [1]: https://youtube.com/watch?v=pPmo21gkETU

How often are video game soundtracks created by well known artists? Especially without AAA studio resources? Have there been that many big names in the space? Nobuo Uematsu for JRPGs, Jeremy Soule, Yasunori Mitsuda....who else has done enough that many people would have a chance of knowing their name?

Just throwing https://www.frankklepacki.com/listen/soundtracks out there. This is the composer of the C&C, and many more, soundtracks.

Re: The Minecraft game score unexpectedly became big business for its composer

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Post by dougSF70 »

tialaramex wrote: post #23
sneak wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They require a Microsoft account. There was a period of time where you could port over your Mojang account, but I and many other people did not, because I didn't want a Microsoft account or to have to agree to the Microsoft Terms of Service, a new legal contract which didn't exist at the time I paid for Minecraft. It's a classic bait and switch. Then, the account migration window closed, and Mojang accounts stopped w…

> There was a period of time where you could port over your Mojang account, To be fair that was a fairly long period IIRC. And they really put some work into that last migration once they announced everything else is going away. Minecraft has all these legacy systems because nobody knew it would be huge, so during the Alpha and early Beta periods it's just whatever payment system they've cobbled together this week. I…

It's a relief Google didn't acquire minecraft...no humans in the loop to help you out.

Re: The Minecraft game score unexpectedly became big business for its composer

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Post by mkaic »

n20benn wrote: post #11

Aside: if you enjoy the Minecraft music albums, you should definitely check out C418's new album for Wanderstop that was released earlier this year. It has a lot of the same feeling to it, and I personally like it even more than the Minecraft albums now. Tracks like Wanderstop Part 2, Earl Grey Part 2, Cinnamon Part 3, and The Forest are good places to start--it's three and a half hours long, so there's a lot to comb…

I second this recommendation, I've been listening to the Wanderstop OST on shuffle for over a month now and find it delightful. The sister album "Wanderstop FM", which contains tracks that play diagetically on the in-game radio, is also excellent.

Re: The Minecraft game score unexpectedly became big business for its composer

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Post by tialaramex »

Arainach wrote: post #24
pityJuke wrote: post #5

It is incredible how Minecraft, and the soundtrack in particular, was created by unknown part timers. A remix of Mice on Venus [0] is one of the few things that can make me cry on cue. There is something so powerful about it. Doesn’t help it is often used in Technoblade tributes because of this video. [1] [0]: https://youtube.com/watch?v=v1wMBrkUEFE [1]: https://youtube.com/watch?v=pPmo21gkETU

How often are video game soundtracks created by well known artists? Especially without AAA studio resources? Have there been that many big names in the space? Nobuo Uematsu for JRPGs, Jeremy Soule, Yasunori Mitsuda....who else has done enough that many people would have a chance of knowing their name?

The soundtrack of Quake is famously by Nine Inch Nails, a "band" which basically consists of Trent Reznor who these days is probably as famous for movie soundtracks like "The Social Network" or "Soul" or for TV soundtracks like the "Watchmen" series but at the time would have been called the "front man" of NiN.

Re: The Minecraft game score unexpectedly became big business for its composer

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Post by [deleted] »

sneak wrote: post #25
tialaramex wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There was a period of time where you could port over your Mojang account, To be fair that was a fairly long period IIRC. And they really put some work into that last migration once they announced everything else is going away. Minecraft has all these legacy systems because nobody knew it would be huge, so during the Alpha and early Beta periods it's just whatever payment system they've cobbled together this week. I…

You are missing the point. I was well aware of it. I don’t want a Microsoft account. I don’t do business with Microsoft. Microsoft demanded that I agree to a new contract, the Microsoft Terms of Service, to which I do not and will not agree, to continue to use the game I already paid for. This is called a bait-and-switch. I paid money, got the product, used the product, then they altered the deal, Vader style. Sign t…

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