Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Unlike ChatGPT, Anthropic has doubled down on Artifacts

ben-mini.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

21–30 of 39 posts

Re: Unlike ChatGPT, Anthropic has doubled down on Artifacts

#21

Post by YetAnotherNick »

oidar wrote: post #19

I’m somewhat indifferent to artifacts. While they can produce useful code occasionally when the codebase is relatively small, they become excessively cumbersome once it reaches around 500 lines. This makes it difficult to even add or remove code. If you want to change a few colors in a webpage, they have to rewrite the whole artifact. It frustrates me that you can’t edit a single line in an artifact; you have to rely…

I think that's a good decision. They know their market and it's intended for small projects and demo mostly from non tech people. And they did not built half baked editor for which people would have further complaints about. AI assisted coding is a whole different thing and there are many players.

Re: Unlike ChatGPT, Anthropic has doubled down on Artifacts

#22

Post by glanzwulf »

aunty_helen wrote: post #13
felixgallo wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Claude Code is radically better than anything ChatGPT has right now. If anything it's the other way around -- ChatGPT has the mom and pop mindshare and more first-mover name recognition, but they have an objectively worse product for 'serious' users.

Have you used it this week? Quality has got really bad.

yeah, it's been a bitt iffy for me this week. took a few days off and came back yesterday and in the mean time feels like claude code took 15 steps backwards

Re: Unlike ChatGPT, Anthropic has doubled down on Artifacts

#23

Post by garciasn »

jasonjmcghee wrote: post #14
garciasn wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I tell Claude not to put anything in the artifacts because it always fucks then up. I see it writing code in it and then it disappears leaving the last artifact in place causing me to waste tokens having it recreate the artifact. I find it useless most of them time and wish I could disable it.

You can. Go to "Connectors" in settings and toggle it off.

I love you.

Re: Unlike ChatGPT, Anthropic has doubled down on Artifacts

#24

Post by esafak »

> OpenAI appears to have basically abandoned Custom GPTs since their Spring ‘24 update, and I’m a bit stumped as to why.

It simplifies the product, reducing the number of hurdles the user has to jump through. "Hmm, which gpt should I use for this task?" That should be OpenAI's problem, not mine!

Re: Unlike ChatGPT, Anthropic has doubled down on Artifacts

#26

Post by borg16 »

graphememes wrote: post #25

Hilariously, today, I unsubscribed from claude due to the increased api timeouts and expensive usage costs when I can use other models for way cheaper that perform equally as good.

yeah their efforts seem to show no care for their consumer level subscribers. all they do seems to be tiered to enterprise customers.

Re: Unlike ChatGPT, Anthropic has doubled down on Artifacts

#27

Post by oc1 »

I'm skeptical of Anthropic's product approach with Artifacts. They made a real winner with claude code and their subscription decision (basically giving up on the profitable api metered billing to win over the professional user base) for this product. Otherwise they are making now the same mistakes Openai did with the GPT Marketplace. As a customer i don't want millions of half-baked ai mini apps to choose from. This is what i'm getting with Artifacts and those gpt stores - decision fatigue and disappointment. I want the best app to solve my problem - this almost certainly won't be these hobbyist custom instruction wrappers but well designed apps by professionals (who know the limitations of these platform won't allow them to build the best-in class solution). Just like Claude Code isn't an artifact but a complete standalone app that doesn't fit into the limitations of such marketplaces.

Re: Unlike ChatGPT, Anthropic has doubled down on Artifacts

#28

Post by OutOfHere »

esafak wrote: post #24

> OpenAI appears to have basically abandoned Custom GPTs since their Spring ‘24 update, and I’m a bit stumped as to why. It simplifies the product, reducing the number of hurdles the user has to jump through. "Hmm, which gpt should I use for this task?" That should be OpenAI's problem, not mine!

False all around.

Custom GPTs are not abandoned, see heavy usage, and their selection is not a dichotomy between the user's problem and OpenAI's problem. Custom GPTs exist so they can benefit from custom prompts which are highly relevant. Unless you're asserting that custom prompts are useless, which would be an absurd assertion to make, it cannot be asserted that Custom GPTs are useless. And no, this is not something that OpenAI is going to select for you because the customization is a personal one.

Re: Unlike ChatGPT, Anthropic has doubled down on Artifacts

#29

Post by segphault »

OutOfHere wrote: post #28
esafak wrote: post #24

> OpenAI appears to have basically abandoned Custom GPTs since their Spring ‘24 update, and I’m a bit stumped as to why. It simplifies the product, reducing the number of hurdles the user has to jump through. "Hmm, which gpt should I use for this task?" That should be OpenAI's problem, not mine!

False all around. Custom GPTs are not abandoned, see heavy usage, and their selection is not a dichotomy between the user's problem and OpenAI's problem. Custom GPTs exist so they can benefit from custom prompts which are highly relevant. Unless you're asserting that custom prompts are useless, which would be an absurd assertion to make, it cannot be asserted that Custom GPTs are useless. And no, this is not somethin…

Custom GPTs don’t support a bunch of newer ChatGPT features like chat history and projects and they can’t be edited from mobile. There is no real advantage to using a custom GPT over adding a custom prompt to a project at this point, given that the latter doesn’t isolate you from the rest of ChatGPT’s feature set. It really seems like they stopped working on custom GPTs and just expect users to use projects instead.

Re: Unlike ChatGPT, Anthropic has doubled down on Artifacts

#30

Post by OutOfHere »

segphault wrote: post #29
OutOfHere wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

False all around. Custom GPTs are not abandoned, see heavy usage, and their selection is not a dichotomy between the user's problem and OpenAI's problem. Custom GPTs exist so they can benefit from custom prompts which are highly relevant. Unless you're asserting that custom prompts are useless, which would be an absurd assertion to make, it cannot be asserted that Custom GPTs are useless. And no, this is not somethin…

Custom GPTs don’t support a bunch of newer ChatGPT features like chat history and projects and they can’t be edited from mobile. There is no real advantage to using a custom GPT over adding a custom prompt to a project at this point, given that the latter doesn’t isolate you from the rest of ChatGPT’s feature set. It really seems like they stopped working on custom GPTs and just expect users to use projects instead.

> There is no real advantage to using a custom GPT over adding a custom prompt to a project

The two features, namely Custom GPTs and Projects, are orthogonal. This is because a Project is for related explorations of a theme, whereas a Custom GPT is for unrelated explorations of a theme.

> chat history

What chat history? Each chat is in the user's history by default, which is how it's supposed to work for Custom GPTs. I don't need a filtered chat history for a Custom GPT like I do for a Project.

> It really seems like they stopped working on custom GPTs and just expect users to use projects instead.

That's more a personal belief rather than a conclusion; it's not even a formal declaration by OpenAI.

Post reply on HN