Live data from Hacker News

Blind to Disruption – The CEOs Who Missed the Future

steveblank.com

21–30 of 164 posts

Re: Blind to Disruption – The CEOs Who Missed the Future

#22
post #10
post #4

nice article, but then end with the brain dead "jump on [current fad]". If this was published a few months ago, it would be telling everyone to jump into web3.

[flagged]

Credit cards are not the only alternative to crypto currencies.

My bank transfers within the country cost me nothing to send or receive, for example.

Re: Blind to Disruption – The CEOs Who Missed the Future

#23
post #15

Let us see how this will age. The current generation of AI models will turn out to be essentially a dead end. I have no doubt that AI will eventually fundamentally change a lot of things, but it will not be large language models [1]. And I think there is no path of gradual improvement, we still need some fundamental new ideas. Integration with external tools will help but not overcome fundamental limitations. Once th…

Sorry but to say current LLMs are a "dead end" is kind of insane if you compare with the previous records at general AI before LLMs. The earlier language models would be happy to be SOTA in 5 random benchmarks (like sentiment or some types of multiple choice questions) and SOTA otherwise consisted of some AIs that could play like 50 Atari games. And out of nowhere we have AI models that can do tasks which are not in training set, pass turing tests, tell jokes, and work out of box on robots. It's literally insane level of progress and even if current techniques don't get to full human-level, it will not have been a dead end in any sense.

Re: Blind to Disruption – The CEOs Who Missed the Future

#24
I like Steve's content, but the ending misses the mark.

With the carriage / car situation, individual transportation is their core business, and most companies are not in the field of Artificial Intelligence.

I say this as someone who has worked for 7 years implementing AI research for production, from automated hardware testing to accessibility for nonverbals: I don't think founders need to obsess even more than they do now about implementing AI, especially in the front end.

This AI hype cycle is missing the mark by building ChatGPT-like bots and buttons with sparkles that perform single OpenAI API calls. AI applications are not a new thing, they have always been here, now they are just more accessible.

The best AI applications are beneath the surface to empower users, Jeff Bezos says that (in 2016!)[1]. You don't see AI as a chatbot in Amazon, you see it for "demand forecasting, product search ranking, product and deals recommendations, merchandising placements, fraud detection, translations."

[1]: https://www.aboutamazon.com/news/company-news/2016-letter-to...

Re: Blind to Disruption – The CEOs Who Missed the Future

#25
post #15

Let us see how this will age. The current generation of AI models will turn out to be essentially a dead end. I have no doubt that AI will eventually fundamentally change a lot of things, but it will not be large language models [1]. And I think there is no path of gradual improvement, we still need some fundamental new ideas. Integration with external tools will help but not overcome fundamental limitations. Once th…

Sorry but to say current LLMs are a "dead end" is kind of insane if you compare with the previous records at general AI before LLMs. The earlier language models would be happy to be SOTA in 5 random benchmarks (like sentiment or some types of multiple choice questions) and SOTA otherwise consisted of some AIs that could play like 50 Atari games. And out of nowhere we have AI models that can do tasks which are not in…

I think large language models have essentially zero reasoning capacity. Train a large language model without exposing it to some topic, say mathematics, during training. Now expose the model to mathematics, feed it basic school books and explanations and exercises just like a teacher would teach mathematics to children in school. I think the model would not be able to learn mathematics this way to any meaningful extend.

Re: Blind to Disruption – The CEOs Who Missed the Future

#27
Great read!

I wonder if there is something noteworthy about Studebacker - yes, they were the only carriage maker out of 4000 to start making cars, and therefore the CEO "knew better" than the other ones.

But then again, Studebacker was the single largest carriage maker and a military contractor for the Union - in other words they were big and "wealthy" enough to consider the "painful transformation" as the article puts it.

How many of the 3999 companies that didn't acutally had any capacity to do so?

Is it really a lesson in divining the future, or more survivorship bias?

Re: Blind to Disruption – The CEOs Who Missed the Future

#28
post #24

I like Steve's content, but the ending misses the mark. With the carriage / car situation, individual transportation is their core business, and most companies are not in the field of Artificial Intelligence. I say this as someone who has worked for 7 years implementing AI research for production, from automated hardware testing to accessibility for nonverbals: I don't think founders need to obsess even more than the…

It may be true but Bezos' comment is also classic smoke blowing. "Oh well you can't see us using or quantify it's success but it's certainly in everything we do!"

Re: Blind to Disruption – The CEOs Who Missed the Future

#29
post #24

I like Steve's content, but the ending misses the mark. With the carriage / car situation, individual transportation is their core business, and most companies are not in the field of Artificial Intelligence. I say this as someone who has worked for 7 years implementing AI research for production, from automated hardware testing to accessibility for nonverbals: I don't think founders need to obsess even more than the…

> The best AI applications are beneath the surface to empower users

Not this time, tho. ChatGPT is the iphone moment for "AI" for the masses. And it was surprising and unexpected both for the experts / practitioners and said masses. Working with LLMs pre gpt3.5 was a mess, hackish and "in the background" but way way worse experience overall. Chatgpt made it happen just like the proverbial "you had me at scroll and pinch-to-zoom" moment in the iphone presentation.

The fact that we went from that 3.5 to whatever claude code thing you can use today is mental as well. And one of the main reasons we got here so fast is also "chatgpt-like bots and buttons with sparkles". The open-source community is ~6mo behind big lab SotA, and that's simply insane. I would not have predicted that 2 years ago, and I was deploying open-source LLMs (GPT-J was the first one I used live in a project) before chatgpt launched. It is insane!

You'll probably laugh at this, but a lot of fine-tuning experimentation and gains in the open source world (hell, maybe even at the big labs, but we'll never know) is from the "horny people" using local llms for erotica and stuff. I wouldn't dismiss anything that happens in this space. Having discovered the Internet in the 90s, and been there for every hype cycle in this space, this one is different, no matter how much anti-hype tokens get spent on this subject.

Re: Blind to Disruption – The CEOs Who Missed the Future

#30
post #28
post #24

I like Steve's content, but the ending misses the mark. With the carriage / car situation, individual transportation is their core business, and most companies are not in the field of Artificial Intelligence. I say this as someone who has worked for 7 years implementing AI research for production, from automated hardware testing to accessibility for nonverbals: I don't think founders need to obsess even more than the…

It may be true but Bezos' comment is also classic smoke blowing. "Oh well you can't see us using or quantify it's success but it's certainly in everything we do!"

But it’s completely true — Amazon undoubtedly has a pretty advanced logistics set up and certainly uses AI all over the place. Even if they’re not a big AI researcher.

There are a lot of great use cases for ML outside of chatbots

Post reply on HN