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Everyone Mark Zuckerberg has hired so far for Meta's 'superintelligence' team

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Re: Everyone Mark Zuckerberg has hired so far for Meta's 'superintelligence' team

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> Poor Sam Altman, 300B worth of trade secrets bought out from under him for a paltry few hundred million Sorry, you don't lose people when you treat them well. Add to that Altman's penchant for organisational dysfunction and the (in part resulting) illiquidity of OpenAI's employees' equity-not-equity and this makes a lot of sense. Broadly, it's good for the American AI ecosystem for this competition for talent to ex…

In retrospect, I wonder if the original ethos of the non-profit structure of OpenAI was a scam from the get go, or just woefully naive. And to emphasize, I'm not talking just about Altman. That is, when you create this cutting edge, powerful tech, it turns out that people are willing to pay gobs of money for it. So if somehow OpenAI had managed to stay as a non-profit (let's pretend training didn't cost a bajillion d…

> wonder if the original ethos of the non-profit structure of OpenAI was a scam from the get go, or just woefully naive

Based on behaviour, it appears they didn't think they'd do anything impactful. When OpenAI accidentally created something important Altman immediately (a) actually got involved to (b) reverse course.

> if somehow OpenAI had managed to stay as a non-profit (let's pretend training didn't cost a bajillion dollars), they still would have lost all of their top engineers to deeper pockets if they didn't pursue an aggressive monetization strategy

I'm not so sure. OpenAI would have held a unique position as both first mover and moral arbiter. That's a powerful place to be, albeit not a position Silicon Valley is comfortable or competent in.

I'm also not sure pursuing monetisation requires a for-profit structure. That's more a function of the cost of training, though again, a licensing partnership with, I don't know, Microsoft, would alleviate that pressure without requiring giving up control.

Re: Everyone Mark Zuckerberg has hired so far for Meta's 'superintelligence' team

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zuck funds health research (a lot, and very ML focused) already

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I really do wish there was a way to downvote "because I don't like what the person is saying, even if it's true"

Re: Everyone Mark Zuckerberg has hired so far for Meta's 'superintelligence' team

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Poor Sam Altman, 300B worth of trade secrets bought out from under him for a paltry few hundred million Sorry, you don't lose people when you treat them well. Add to that Altman's penchant for organisational dysfunction and the (in part resulting) illiquidity of OpenAI's employees' equity-not-equity and this makes a lot of sense. Broadly, it's good for the American AI ecosystem for this competition for talent to ex…

In retrospect, I wonder if the original ethos of the non-profit structure of OpenAI was a scam from the get go, or just woefully naive. And to emphasize, I'm not talking just about Altman. That is, when you create this cutting edge, powerful tech, it turns out that people are willing to pay gobs of money for it. So if somehow OpenAI had managed to stay as a non-profit (let's pretend training didn't cost a bajillion d…

Getting rich going good is better than just getting rich. People like both.

Which part are you skeptical about? that people also like to do good, or that AI can do good?

Re: Everyone Mark Zuckerberg has hired so far for Meta's 'superintelligence' team

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[stub for offtopicness] Please see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44432526

Is mark Zuckerberg systematically behind the curve on every hype?

This in includes fashion and hairstyles it seems...

Re: Everyone Mark Zuckerberg has hired so far for Meta's 'superintelligence' team

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Poor Sam Altman, 300B worth of trade secrets bought out from under him for a paltry few hundred million Sorry, you don't lose people when you treat them well. Add to that Altman's penchant for organisational dysfunction and the (in part resulting) illiquidity of OpenAI's employees' equity-not-equity and this makes a lot of sense. Broadly, it's good for the American AI ecosystem for this competition for talent to ex…

In retrospect, I wonder if the original ethos of the non-profit structure of OpenAI was a scam from the get go, or just woefully naive. And to emphasize, I'm not talking just about Altman. That is, when you create this cutting edge, powerful tech, it turns out that people are willing to pay gobs of money for it. So if somehow OpenAI had managed to stay as a non-profit (let's pretend training didn't cost a bajillion d…

It wasn't exactly a scam, it's just nobody thought it'd be worth real money that fast, so the transition from noble venture to cash grab happened faster than expected.

Re: Everyone Mark Zuckerberg has hired so far for Meta's 'superintelligence' team

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[stub for offtopicness] Please see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44432526

Mark Zuckerberg hiring top AI researchers worries me more than Iran hiring nuclear scientists.

With luck, they'll vaporize billions of dollars on nothing of consequence.

If they come up with anything of consequence, we'll have an incredibly higher level of Facebook monitoring of our lives in all scopes. Also such a level of AI crap (info/disinfo in politics, crime, arts, etc.) that ironically in-person exchanges will be valued more highly than today. When everything you see on pixels is suspect, only the tangible can be trusted.

Re: Everyone Mark Zuckerberg has hired so far for Meta's 'superintelligence' team

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So much wasted money it makes me sick… There are so much money needed to solve another problems, especially for health. I don’t blame the new comers, but Zuckerberg.

This stuff is ridiculously important for healthcare: It’s a demographic fact that both the US and the world at large are simply not training enough doctors and nurses to provide today’s standard of care at current staffing levels as the population ages. We need massive productivity boosts in medicine just as fast as we can get them.

It doesn't take super intelligence to give my elderly father a bath or wipe his ass.

I think the main problem is we would almost need an economic depression so that at the margin there were for less alternative jobs available than giving my father a bath.

Then also consider that say we do have super-intelligence that adds a few years to his life because of better diagnostics and treatment of death. It actually makes the day to day care problem worse in the aggregate.

We are headed towards this boomer long term care disaster and there is nothing that is going to avert it. Boomers I talk to are completely in denial of this problem too. They are expecting the long term care situation to look like what their parents had. I just try to convince every boomer I know that they have to do everything they can do physically now to better themselves to stay out of long term care as long as possible.

Re: Everyone Mark Zuckerberg has hired so far for Meta's 'superintelligence' team

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[stub for offtopicness] Please see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44432526

the idea of mark zuckerberg being at the helm of digital super-intelligence sickens me.

the cringiest possible future
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