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We accidentally solved robotics by watching 1M hours of YouTube

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Re: We accidentally solved robotics by watching 1M hours of YouTube

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Post by signal-intel »

imranq wrote: post #14

This was a bit hard to read. It would be good to have a narrative structure and more clear explanation of concepts.

Very intentional. Their response would be: “if you need narrative structure and clear explanation of concepts, yngmi”.

Re: We accidentally solved robotics by watching 1M hours of YouTube

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Post by ReptileMan »

perching_aix wrote: post #16
ReptileMan wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So a half zoom meeting... or 1/3 Teams one.

I genuinely wish there was a cost estimation feature built into them. Doesn't even have to be even remotely close to the true cost if it's anything like the meetings I attend, there will be enough people and it will go on for long enough to make up for it.

I worked as consultant. And started billing at normal hourly rates for meetings. You will be surprised how fast the company desire for my participation in them decreased.

Re: We accidentally solved robotics by watching 1M hours of YouTube

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Post by perching_aix »

okdood64 wrote: post #2

Does YouTube allow massive scraping like this in their ToS?

My "lawyer" (gpt4o) claims that since YouTube is merely a non-exclusive licensee of the user content upload to their service, even if they have such restrictions in their ToS (they do), they likely would not hold up in court, citing [0]. Something about that non-exclusivity meaning they cannot constrain the copyright further on their own terms. Which I guess makes sense?

And since scraping of publicly available data is not illegal (in the US, according to the aforementioned "lawyer"), it seems like it's okay?

Not legal advice.

[0] https://www.skadden.com/insights/publications/2024/05/distri...

Re: We accidentally solved robotics by watching 1M hours of YouTube

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Post by snickerdoodle12 »

mouse_ wrote: post #6
okdood64 wrote: post #2

Does YouTube allow massive scraping like this in their ToS?

Probably not. Who cares at this point? No one is stopping ML sets from being primarily pirated. The current power is effectively dismantling copyright for AI related work.

> Who cares at this point

Anyone who has a shred of integrity. I'm not a fan of overreaching copyright laws, but they've been strictly enforced for years now. Decades, even. They've ruined many lives, like how they killed Aaron Swartz.

But now, suddenly, violating copyright is totally okay and carries no consequences whatsoever because the billionaires decided that's how they can get richer now?

If you want to even try to pretend you don't live in a plutocracy and that the rule of law matters at all these developments should concern you.

Re: We accidentally solved robotics by watching 1M hours of YouTube

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Post by hobs »

ReptileMan wrote: post #22
perching_aix wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I genuinely wish there was a cost estimation feature built into them. Doesn't even have to be even remotely close to the true cost if it's anything like the meetings I attend, there will be enough people and it will go on for long enough to make up for it.

I worked as consultant. And started billing at normal hourly rates for meetings. You will be surprised how fast the company desire for my participation in them decreased.

Why would you do anything but that? You want to just chat with me forever the rate is the rate.
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