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US Defense Department will stop providing satellite weather data

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Re: US Defense Department will stop providing satellite weather data

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Post by genter »

WarOnPrivacy wrote: post #11
leereeves wrote: post #4

> "There are cybersecurity concerns. That's what we're being told." Anyone know what that's about?

> "There are cybersecurity concerns. That's what we're being told." Let's try to make sense of that. 1) the cybersecurity talent from DoD and USG is so decimated it can't field a response to whatever this concern is or 2) the DoD has the talent to resolve whatever this concern is and they are deliberately leaving this concern in place or 3) the DoD is lying about a cybersecurity issue being the reason that they're wi…

Fourth option: a cyber company that could potentially sell weather forecast data is loosing it's financial security because NOAA gives it away for free.

Re: US Defense Department will stop providing satellite weather data

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Post by righthand »

This is part of Project 2025 to destroy the NOAA. [0]

> Break up the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

> "fully commercialize" the National Weather Service's forecasting operations.[1]

[0] https://www.project2025.observer/?search=NOAA

[1] https://www.project2025.observer/?search=Weather

Re: US Defense Department will stop providing satellite weather data

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Post by ivape »

righthand wrote: post #22

This is part of Project 2025 to destroy the NOAA. [0] > Break up the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. > "fully commercialize" the National Weather Service's forecasting operations.[1] [0] https://www.project2025.observer/?search=NOAA [1] https://www.project2025.observer/?search=Weather

What in the actual fuck. I can’t believe they are actually doing all those little petty things.

Re: US Defense Department will stop providing satellite weather data

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Post by righthand »

ivape wrote: post #23
righthand wrote: post #22

This is part of Project 2025 to destroy the NOAA. [0] > Break up the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. > "fully commercialize" the National Weather Service's forecasting operations.[1] [0] https://www.project2025.observer/?search=NOAA [1] https://www.project2025.observer/?search=Weather

What in the actual fuck. I can’t believe they are actually doing all those little petty things.

Yes as warned and ignored.

Re: US Defense Department will stop providing satellite weather data

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Post by Buttons840 »

I see 3 possibilities: They're cutting it off to limit bad news about climate change, for political reasons. Or they're trying to set up some private company to sell the same data.

Or (tinfoil hat on) they're going to do something the raw microwave data might expose and so they're trying to keep the microwave data secret.

Re: US Defense Department will stop providing satellite weather data

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Post by nemomarx »

ivape wrote: post #23
righthand wrote: post #22

This is part of Project 2025 to destroy the NOAA. [0] > Break up the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. > "fully commercialize" the National Weather Service's forecasting operations.[1] [0] https://www.project2025.observer/?search=NOAA [1] https://www.project2025.observer/?search=Weather

What in the actual fuck. I can’t believe they are actually doing all those little petty things.

Genuine - did you think it was exaggerated in the media or that they wouldn't? A lot of people seem to have not taken it seriously around 2023, even though it was a very detailed plan with legal strategies, implementations and bills, etc in there.

Re: US Defense Department will stop providing satellite weather data

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Post by righthand »

nemomarx wrote: post #26
ivape wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What in the actual fuck. I can’t believe they are actually doing all those little petty things.

Genuine - did you think it was exaggerated in the media or that they wouldn't? A lot of people seem to have not taken it seriously around 2023, even though it was a very detailed plan with legal strategies, implementations and bills, etc in there.

A lot of people didn’t take it seriously because the RNC lied about distancing themselves from the Project 2025, which is a meaningless statement that even Democrats believed. It doesn’t really matter if the RNC distances themselves though does it?

Re: US Defense Department will stop providing satellite weather data

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Post by ethan_smith »

mlfreeman wrote: post #14

Are the satellites being turned off, or could people with SDRs pick this up directly from space and offer it up for free?

Yes, many weather satellites broadcast in frequencies accessible to amateur SDR setups (137-138MHz for NOAA polar orbiting satellites), though military weather satellites like DMSP use different frequencies and encryption that make civilian reception significantly more challenging.

Re: US Defense Department will stop providing satellite weather data

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Post by Frost1x »

alwa wrote: post #17
genter wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Accuweather, who also depend on this same USG sensor data for their modeling… I don’t think anybody wins from this. See e.g. https://www.accuweather.com/en/press/accuweather-does-not-su...

Are there other countries with similar weather satellites? I imagine China or the EU likely have some of their own. I know the US has been pushing this for free so plenty of nations likely piggy back off the free data. But I imagine larger ones might want their own redundant services to some degree to avoid vulnerability.

If so, they might be benefiting, but that’s about it.

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