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Life Expectancy in Europe Compared to the US

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Re: Life Expectancy in Europe Compared to the US

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I get the feeling that Universal Healthcare (medicare for all) would probably level the difference? What else is responsible for the almost 4yr difference with e.g. France? Is it diet? Is the air/water worse in the US?

Much of europe does have universal healthcare, but it is done internally to each european country.

That means poorer countries tend to have worse healthcare, and less good outcomes.

Re: Life Expectancy in Europe Compared to the US

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Isn't it simply because of race?

While genetics might play a small role for very specific reasons (eg a society thats prone to sickle cell disease will likely live shorter), there’s no such difference in large, diversified populations like US/Europe.

I guess pale people and/or bald people could die younger due to skin cancer? I know I need to be really careful since losing my hair.

Re: Life Expectancy in Europe Compared to the US

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What typical Reddit ignorance that compares the avg life expectancy of the whole USA with a range of 68 years for tribal people to 85 years for “Asians”, a 17 year spread, to individual European countries.

It has always baffled me a bit that Europeans keep making this basic type error, by comparing individual European countries that were relatively cohesive and healthy until recently, to the whole of the USA that suffers from a whole host of benefits of diversity. Europeans simply have no understanding of the real America beyond what they see in movies or hear on Reddit. How could they, most people in America don’t even have a clue what America really is like due to endless barrages of propaganda from childhood on.

Re: Life Expectancy in Europe Compared to the US

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Fast food addiction, free-refill-fueled soda addiction, tobacco addiction, weakly trained near universal use of automobiles for daily travel, and unequal access to healthcare are staples of American culture so I am only surprised the spread is not worse.

This has very little to do with location or genetics and everything to do with education and culture.

Re: Life Expectancy in Europe Compared to the US

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post #7

I get the feeling that Universal Healthcare (medicare for all) would probably level the difference? What else is responsible for the almost 4yr difference with e.g. France? Is it diet? Is the air/water worse in the US?

Would probably level the difference of what? This is rich countries vs poor countries. You can get an identical result over a US map:

https://www.nationhoodlab.org/the-regional-geography-of-u-s-...

Re: Life Expectancy in Europe Compared to the US

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Spot the "democratic socialist" countries.

Switzerland appears to have the highest of them all, and certainly isn’t socialist, although it’s definitely democratic.

Sure it isn't a socialist country, but many Swiss policies would be considered socialist in US politics, eg: if you are sick/ill you receive 80% of your salary for 720 days.

Re: Life Expectancy in Europe Compared to the US

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post #7

I get the feeling that Universal Healthcare (medicare for all) would probably level the difference? What else is responsible for the almost 4yr difference with e.g. France? Is it diet? Is the air/water worse in the US?

Food, I believe it's obvious. France obesity rate is also lower than the US. Large portion of americans eat like they have free healthcare.

This has got to be a massive factor.

What shocked me about the US when I went, was how much peptobismol people chugged down. There was not one meal in my 1 week stay there that I could digest without issue.

Re: Life Expectancy in Europe Compared to the US

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post #7

I get the feeling that Universal Healthcare (medicare for all) would probably level the difference? What else is responsible for the almost 4yr difference with e.g. France? Is it diet? Is the air/water worse in the US?

Much of europe does have universal healthcare, but it is done internally to each european country . That means poorer countries tend to have worse healthcare, and less good outcomes.

The divide you see in this map is more like Soviet infrastructure versus western infrastructure and Eastern approach to alcohol and nutrition.

It’s much more than money.

Re: Life Expectancy in Europe Compared to the US

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I get the feeling that Universal Healthcare (medicare for all) would probably level the difference? What else is responsible for the almost 4yr difference with e.g. France? Is it diet? Is the air/water worse in the US?

At best about half. Compared to UK, roughly other half of gap is drug overdoses, car crashes and firearm deaths

https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2024/americans-die-younger-than...

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