Another approach is to work towards seamless integration of human + bot collaboration:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44380745
Basically the bot shows the human the right UI at the right time as they work.
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#22This is cool...but what I really want is (1) Claude and I develop a cool app, (2) I give Claude a virtual credit card number with a spend limit, (3) Claude deploys it to whatever service they think works best (Railway, Vercel, ...) and points a domain name to that hosting service.
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#23I used to love to make silly websites or apps with new technologies. Been doing it since flash. I have a pretty decent hit rate! It’s not unusually to get half a million or so people try one of them.
But with AI that model is just totally broken because the running cost is so high.
If I have half a million people come play my silly AI game that I have no wish to monetise - I am gonna be POOR very fast.
Log in with [insert ai vendor here] is something I’ve been hoping would happen for a while.
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#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
When you have a service outage you think the AI will be able to troubleshoot the entire system and resolve the issues?
if scaling laws and context windows continue, why not?
There is coming a very_soon_time whereby one will have to ensure all the routes and failure_modes for the AIs plumbing are functional.
What if the outage is specifically that AI_agent cant reach [thing]?
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#25The tiniest step towards a future where AI eats all apps. No persistent storage and other limitations make it just a toy for now but we can imagine how people will just create their own Todo apps, gym logging apps and whatever other simple thing. no external API access currently but when that's available or app users can communicate with other app users, some virality is possible for people who make the best tiny app…
Actually implementing persistent storage for simple apps isn't that hard, especially for a big corp. Personally, I was using LLMs coding capabilities to create custom single-file HTML apps, that would work offline with localStorage. It's not that there aren't good options out there, but you can't really customize them to work exactly how you want. Also it takes like half an hours to get what you want.
The only downside was not being able to access the apps from other devices, so I ended up creating a tool to make them online accessible and sync the data, while using the same localStorage API. It's actually pretty neat.
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#26Is this the end of - or at least a significant challenge to - SaaS? Why buy into saas tooling if you can just slap something together - that you fully own - with something like this?
Challenge, yes, but I wouldn't go far to say "end of". B2C SaaS will have more challenge the easier it gets to create things, but consumers have always been fickle anyway. I'd say B2B SaaS is mostly safe, partially because they want the support and don't want to have to maintain it. Today we have open-source versions of a lot of SaaS products, but the proprietary ones are still in business, mostly for that reason IME…
you can swing it anyway you want - another reason we use spreadsheets, or another reason we don't use airtable, or CRM #37....
all systems require support and upkeep... nobody wants to do it.
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#27Is this the end of - or at least a significant challenge to - SaaS? Why buy into saas tooling if you can just slap something together - that you fully own - with something like this?
- Compliance - Thing should work reliably (and you want someone else to be responsible for fixing it if it doesn't) - Security - Most SaaS is sufficiently complex that an LLM cannot implement it
Enterprise SaaS are business processes that lean extremely heavily on software. Some of that could be amended by AI, but it's much harder for me to see that getting wholesale replaced the same way many consumer apps could be.
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#28I used to love to make silly websites or apps with new technologies. Been doing it since flash. I have a pretty decent hit rate! It’s not unusually to get half a million or so people try one of them. But with AI that model is just totally broken because the running cost is so high. If I have half a million people come play my silly AI game that I have no wish to monetise - I am gonna be POOR very fast. Log in with [i…
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#29Is this much different from the custom GPTs that OpenAI pushed a year or two ago?
Same question, but I'm less clear on how we devs get paid here.
Still hoping someone builds the App Store for custom GPTs where we don't have to worry about payment and user infrastructure. Happy giving up a percentage for that butnot30percentguys.
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#30If only this worked with image generation! There's vastly more applications for this kind of thing in that space. They're more fun too :)