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Microsoft's big lie: Your computer is fine, and you don't need to buy a new one

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Re: Microsoft's big lie: Your computer is fine, and you don't need to buy a new one

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Post by ToucanLoucan »

preisschild wrote: post #5

Not a fan of windows, but i hate this FUD against TPM&Secureboot

It's not Fear, Uncertainty or Doubt. Nobody serious is saying that TPMs are a bad idea. They are saying they are not required and they are fucking correct to say it, and especially when folks are already suffering under a cost of living hike like few we've seen, plus Trump's stupid tariffs, it's horseshit to effectively hold people's security hostage to them buying an entire new fucking computer.

You can disable the requirements for these features in Windows setup with Microsoft approved group policies. They are the definition of not required. My workbench PC is a shitty old XPS from 2014 and it runs 11 just fine.

Like, would people be more secure with TPMs? Absolutely, but I've been using computers in my home since fucking 2004 that did not have these features. Surely we can let it go a little longer without throwing folks to the digital wolves for the crime of not having a few hundred around for another new goddamn gadget?

Re: Microsoft's big lie: Your computer is fine, and you don't need to buy a new one

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Post by nottorp »

preisschild wrote: post #5

Not a fan of windows, but i hate this FUD against TPM&Secureboot

I don't think Windows is using TPM for anything useful.

As for Secure boot, its main goal seems to be preventing you from installing non Windows operating systems.

Re: Microsoft's big lie: Your computer is fine, and you don't need to buy a new one

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Post by christophilus »

nottorp wrote: post #18

How's Mint? I'm asking because I installed a fresh ubuntu desktop in a VM today and the spam I got on first run reminded me of ... Windows.

My 2cents: use Fedora. Or, if you're technically savvy, Arch. I slightly prefer Arch simply because:

- Firefox is up to date (Fedora is often 2 weeks late on security patches)

- No upgrade cycle. Just `pacman -Syu` on a regular cadence, or whatever you're comfy with.

When you go with the vanilla install of a major distro, I find you simply run into fewer shenanigans.

Re: Microsoft's big lie: Your computer is fine, and you don't need to buy a new one

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Post by marcusb »

> Microsoft has a long history of playing fast-and-loose with the truth. And that’s again the case with Windows 10 coming to its supposed “end of life” this fall.

I can’t take an article seriously, whatever merits it might have, if this is the opening gambit.

“End of life” is a fairly common term of art amongst software and hardware OEMs. Windows 10 is going to be end of life. No scare quotes needed.

Re: Microsoft's big lie: Your computer is fine, and you don't need to buy a new one

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Post by kayodelycaon »

loloquwowndueo wrote: post #26
tiahura wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because they run Word Excel and Outlook.

Can’t you run that on a browser these days?

Have you tried to use office on the web?

The answer is no, not unless an absolutely crippled version is sufficient for your needs.

Re: Microsoft's big lie: Your computer is fine, and you don't need to buy a new one

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Post by qsort »

nottorp wrote: post #18

How's Mint? I'm asking because I installed a fresh ubuntu desktop in a VM today and the spam I got on first run reminded me of ... Windows.

If you're technical try Fedora. It's a bit on the bleeding edge side, but it's a zero-bullshit OS that mostly just works. Debian is another great option, but packages are a bit behind.

If you're not technical honestly just buy a mac.

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