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Re: The Last of Us Part II – Seattle Locations Tour

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Post by lenocinor »

tomcam wrote: post #19

I will get downvoted for this, but note that many of these locations are... a bit rugged. Probably best to avoid this tour at night unless you have a large party and to be careful using your phones.

I mention in the guide that you should do it during the day for best results, so in general I'm with you on that (and the guide backtracks after Macy's to avoid 3rd, on purpose). But I will say that I've been walking all around downtown / ID / Pioneer Square / Belltown for a number of years now, and I've never felt unsafe, though there are plenty of unpleasantries (yelling, drug use, people walking erratically, etc.) I even walked through 12th and Jackson today, and it's not great, but I didn't feel unsafe, either.

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Post by skyyler »

SunlightEdge wrote: post #18

The Last of Us Part II is a very marmite game - people either love it or hate it. Personally I didn't like the direction the story went down even if the gameplay and the graphics were amazing I was left cold. However I do respect that the story itself was pretty original and was catering to female/lgtb audiences (that's cool). Just not my thing.

In what ways was the story catering to female/lgtb audiences? I haven't played it, but I played the first one.

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Post by PaulDavisThe1st »

SunlightEdge wrote: post #18

The Last of Us Part II is a very marmite game - people either love it or hate it. Personally I didn't like the direction the story went down even if the gameplay and the graphics were amazing I was left cold. However I do respect that the story itself was pretty original and was catering to female/lgtb audiences (that's cool). Just not my thing.

You mean that the central romantic relationship was between two women? Or that the main action characters are female?

Does that mean you'd describe 70-90% of other visual storytelling as "catering to male straight audiences" ?

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Post by stronglikedan »

lenocinor wrote: post #21
tomcam wrote: post #19

I will get downvoted for this, but note that many of these locations are... a bit rugged. Probably best to avoid this tour at night unless you have a large party and to be careful using your phones.

I mention in the guide that you should do it during the day for best results, so in general I'm with you on that (and the guide backtracks after Macy's to avoid 3rd, on purpose). But I will say that I've been walking all around downtown / ID / Pioneer Square / Belltown for a number of years now, and I've never felt unsafe, though there are plenty of unpleasantries (yelling, drug use, people walking erratically, etc.)…

> yelling, drug use, people walking erratically, etc.

People that are not used to that would definitely feel unsafe in that situation.

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Post by shikshake »

skyyler wrote: post #22
SunlightEdge wrote: post #18

The Last of Us Part II is a very marmite game - people either love it or hate it. Personally I didn't like the direction the story went down even if the gameplay and the graphics were amazing I was left cold. However I do respect that the story itself was pretty original and was catering to female/lgtb audiences (that's cool). Just not my thing.

In what ways was the story catering to female/lgtb audiences? I haven't played it, but I played the first one.

It really wasn't, it just had a lesbian protagonist. There are still many prominent sympathetic male characters with agency. Plenty of women enjoy action movies targeted towards men, I always find it confusing when men feel they can't enjoy media with a woman in it.

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Post by dyauspitr »

SunlightEdge wrote: post #18

The Last of Us Part II is a very marmite game - people either love it or hate it. Personally I didn't like the direction the story went down even if the gameplay and the graphics were amazing I was left cold. However I do respect that the story itself was pretty original and was catering to female/lgtb audiences (that's cool). Just not my thing.

Yeah I generally have zero interest in anything that caters to a female audience. Usually the motivations and outcomes are the exact opposite of what I tend to look forward to in movies/games in that case.

Re: The Last of Us Part II – Seattle Locations Tour

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Post by donflamenco »

lenocinor wrote: post #2

FYI, I made this tour in case anyone has any questions (or corrections, etc.)

Awesome doc. I've taken some pictures of real life in comparison to the game, but not to the extreme level you have. Any fans of the game who wants to visit Seattle this summer, this is the doc for you!

In Abby Day 1, I'm pretty sure she goes through the Home Depot on 1st Ave and spends some time going through SODO. Not sure where that building with the boat is. That part seems missing from your doc.

Also, you do see the Space Needle pretty closely on the Seraphite island. In real life the Space Needle and the TV station (where the WLF people are strung up) are right next to each other. In the game, not so much.

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Post by A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 »

shikshake wrote: post #25
skyyler wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In what ways was the story catering to female/lgtb audiences? I haven't played it, but I played the first one.

It really wasn't, it just had a lesbian protagonist. There are still many prominent sympathetic male characters with agency. Plenty of women enjoy action movies targeted towards men, I always find it confusing when men feel they can't enjoy media with a woman in it.

Huh? Lara Croft, female Shepherd ( that is how I played it anyway ), Bayonetta all featured female protagonists. The difference between then and current crop and the games were enjoyable to its audience.

I personally disliked 2nd last of us, but that it is because, unlike the first one, it was missing something from the original. I absolutely disliked the 2nd act as the former antagonist despite understanding the need to include their portion of the story in the narrative.

I am lukewarm towards the end message despite it, oddly, aligning with my own personal views. It felt it was preachy.

And that, I think, some find off-putting. It is supposed to be entertainment.

Hell, Wick just released Ballerina that features strong female protagonist and.. people don't hate as much as other forced entries. I have theories as to why, but those, I think, can only derail this thread.

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Post by buildbot »

lenocinor wrote: post #11
mikestew wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I was surprised by that. I can read it now (with a try again/cancel/dismiss banner at the top). Anyway, good work on the doc; I found it interesting as a Seattle-area resident.

Thank you! That means a lot to me. I've been here in Seattle almost 10 years, but I feel like I still have so much to learn about this city. Making this guide taught me a lot!

I’ve lived in Seattle 90% of my life and still finding and learning new stuff! It’s an awesome city (So are Portland and Vancouver BC!).

Re: The Last of Us Part II – Seattle Locations Tour

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Post by lenocinor »

donflamenco wrote: post #27
lenocinor wrote: post #2

FYI, I made this tour in case anyone has any questions (or corrections, etc.)

Awesome doc. I've taken some pictures of real life in comparison to the game, but not to the extreme level you have. Any fans of the game who wants to visit Seattle this summer, this is the doc for you! In Abby Day 1, I'm pretty sure she goes through the Home Depot on 1st Ave and spends some time going through SODO. Not sure where that building with the boat is. That part seems missing from your doc. Also, you do see…

Thank you! I especially appreciate the detailed feedback.

I definitely thought about putting in Home Depot. The problem is that, according to Begeal's map ( https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/1/viewer?mid=1pcItdmVeC6Rj24... ), which I almost always agree with, Abby's around 5th Ave. and Main St. at that point. I haven't doublechecked that location myself in game recently, but looking at a playthrough, the FOB appears to be almost directly east, and I'm pretty sure that was meant to be Harborview. This roughly tracks with what Begeal shows on their map.

That's pretty far away from Home Depot in SoDo, which is a little ways south of both stadiums, and here in the game you actually seem to be north of the stadiums by this point. Also, as you exit in the game, the garden center seems to be on the northwest corner of the store, not the northeast, and the parking lot seems different too. Given that the game has generic stores all the time that don't exist in real life, I'm inclined to say "not quite close enough" personally. But I should put all this in the document for people to judge on their own, so thank you for prompting me to do that! I'll add it in a minute.

I thought so too re: the Space Needle on Seraphite Island. But I tried to take pictures every time I saw it appear, and I could never get a good shot. (And I really tried!) If you know of a good screenshot online, though, I'll be happy to include it and credit the original source.

EDIT: Oh, and yeah, the Space Needle definitely is not in the right place in the game at least some of the time, which the TV station in the game (and the guide) makes obvious.

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