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Microsoft suspended the email account of an ICC prosecutor at The Hague

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Re: Microsoft suspended the email account of an ICC prosecutor at The Hague

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Post by boston_clone »

perihelions wrote: post #19
NewJazz wrote: post #6

They didn't even resist/appeal the order? It is an EO, not a law. Goes to show just how subservient and feckless Microsoft is. Nominative determinism much?

- "It is an EO, not a law." Still, backed by pretty solid statutory authority[0] (one created by Democrats and signed into law by Carter, in point of fact). Congress wanted the President to have this power. I'll get scorched for this, but: I never once read a word of complaint about separation-of-powers, when Biden was sanctioning objects left and right for his own, self-declared, national-security emergencies. I don…

You not reading that commentary and it not taking place are two very different things! Plenty of folks expressed constitutionality concerns for several types of actions that the Biden admin took. However, you may find that the enacted sanctions hold up significantly better under meaningful scrutiny than Trump cutting off email for one person investigating the war crimes and evidence of genocide in Gaza at the hands of our proxy state in the ME.

Re: Microsoft suspended the email account of an ICC prosecutor at The Hague

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Post by boston_clone »

dismalaf wrote: post #18

Did everyone miss the last line of the article and/or is everyone unaware of the fact this particular prosecutor has been suspended and is being investigated by the police for rape? Kind of pertinent to the story... His official work email was suspended because he's suspended from the organization...

Impertinent and disingenuous if you pay attention to the timeline; the EO was issued in February. The ICC has changed internal policies, and other members of the body sanctioned post-hoc have not had their email accounts suspended. The sexual misconduct allegations surfaced in May.

Re: Microsoft suspended the email account of an ICC prosecutor at The Hague

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Post by hk1337 »

dismalaf wrote: post #18

Did everyone miss the last line of the article and/or is everyone unaware of the fact this particular prosecutor has been suspended and is being investigated by the police for rape? Kind of pertinent to the story... His official work email was suspended because he's suspended from the organization...

I missed it because it was at the very end so thanks for pointing it out.

Sounds like Trump’s EO had nothing to do with with suspending the account?

> Microsoft said the decision to suspend Mr. Khan’s email had been made in consultation with the I.C.C. The company said it had since enacted policy changes that had been in the works before the episode to protect customers in similar geopolitical situations in the future. When the Trump administration sanctioned four additional I.C.C. judges this month, their email accounts were not suspended, the company said.

Re: Microsoft suspended the email account of an ICC prosecutor at The Hague

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Post by croes »

dismalaf wrote: post #18

Did everyone miss the last line of the article and/or is everyone unaware of the fact this particular prosecutor has been suspended and is being investigated by the police for rape? Kind of pertinent to the story... His official work email was suspended because he's suspended from the organization...

Rape allegations? Reminds me of Assange.

And he also lost his bank account, that’s hardly because of the allegations

Re: Microsoft suspended the email account of an ICC prosecutor at The Hague

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Post by ptero »

bigtones wrote: post #7

>> Casper Klynge, a former Danish and European Union diplomat who worked for Microsoft, said the episode was in many ways the “smoking gun that many Europeans had been looking for.” Damn right. Strong evidence that Europe should look after their own, and not rely on the good old US of A. Written by an Australian who thinks we should do the same down here.

Please do. Some real competition would be good for all sides!

Re: Microsoft suspended the email account of an ICC prosecutor at The Hague

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Post by aaron695 »

bigtones wrote: post #7

>> Casper Klynge, a former Danish and European Union diplomat who worked for Microsoft, said the episode was in many ways the “smoking gun that many Europeans had been looking for.” Damn right. Strong evidence that Europe should look after their own, and not rely on the good old US of A. Written by an Australian who thinks we should do the same down here.

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Re: Microsoft suspended the email account of an ICC prosecutor at The Hague

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Post by dismalaf »

boston_clone wrote: post #22
dismalaf wrote: post #18

Did everyone miss the last line of the article and/or is everyone unaware of the fact this particular prosecutor has been suspended and is being investigated by the police for rape? Kind of pertinent to the story... His official work email was suspended because he's suspended from the organization...

Impertinent and disingenuous if you pay attention to the timeline; the EO was issued in February. The ICC has changed internal policies, and other members of the body sanctioned post-hoc have not had their email accounts suspended. The sexual misconduct allegations surfaced in May.

The sexual assault allegations were reported internally at the ICC last year.

Look at this article discussing the allegations, by AP, from last year: https://apnews.com/article/war-crimes-international-criminal...

Re: Microsoft suspended the email account of an ICC prosecutor at The Hague

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Post by pentamassiv »

dismalaf wrote: post #18

Did everyone miss the last line of the article and/or is everyone unaware of the fact this particular prosecutor has been suspended and is being investigated by the police for rape? Kind of pertinent to the story... His official work email was suspended because he's suspended from the organization...

He is not being investigated for rape. The article says "sexual misconduct"

Re: Microsoft suspended the email account of an ICC prosecutor at The Hague

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Post by croes »

hk1337 wrote: post #23
dismalaf wrote: post #18

Did everyone miss the last line of the article and/or is everyone unaware of the fact this particular prosecutor has been suspended and is being investigated by the police for rape? Kind of pertinent to the story... His official work email was suspended because he's suspended from the organization...

I missed it because it was at the very end so thanks for pointing it out. Sounds like Trump’s EO had nothing to do with with suspending the account? > Microsoft said the decision to suspend Mr. Khan’s email had been made in consultation with the I.C.C. The company said it had since enacted policy changes that had been in the works before the episode to protect customers in similar geopolitical situations in the futur…

> The company said it had since enacted policy changes that had been in the works before the episode to protect customers in similar geopolitical situations in the future. When the Trump administration sanctioned four additional I.C.C. judges this month, their email accounts were not suspended, the company said.

That sounds exactly like it was because of Trump‘s EO but MS doesn’t want to do it anymore

Re: Microsoft suspended the email account of an ICC prosecutor at The Hague

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Post by surge »

boston_clone wrote: post #21
perihelions wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

- "It is an EO, not a law." Still, backed by pretty solid statutory authority[0] (one created by Democrats and signed into law by Carter, in point of fact). Congress wanted the President to have this power. I'll get scorched for this, but: I never once read a word of complaint about separation-of-powers, when Biden was sanctioning objects left and right for his own, self-declared, national-security emergencies. I don…

You not reading that commentary and it not taking place are two very different things! Plenty of folks expressed constitutionality concerns for several types of actions that the Biden admin took. However, you may find that the enacted sanctions hold up significantly better under meaningful scrutiny than Trump cutting off email for one person investigating the war crimes and evidence of genocide in Gaza at the hands o…

That commentary was far less prevalent and met a lot of resistance from the same people here.

Few people imagine something like a Department of Mis/Disinformation not being such a good thing if its their person in charge and don't imagine a situation where someone else takes over later on something like the Israeli/Palestinian conflict where there's a schism within parties about what is "misinformation". Instead they'll cheer lead it and downvote or debate detractors and accuse them of being an otherside shill because its immediately good for them. They don't take an adversarial view of how can this be abused, and if not by whose in power now, who maybe 5-10-20 years from now.

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