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US Army Appoints Palantir, Meta, OpenAI Execs as Lt. Colonels

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Re: US Army Appoints Palantir, Meta, OpenAI Execs as Lt. Colonels

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post #7

There's apparently a long history of honorary or symbolic reservist rank being given to civilian advisors; a good starting Google search is "dollar-a-year men".

The direct commission program is ordinarily used for medical providers and they are on the same payscale as everyone else that holds their rank.

Re: US Army Appoints Palantir, Meta, OpenAI Execs as Lt. Colonels

#22
post #15

Grayzone is an extremely unreliable source which frequently publishes false stories with an anti-US bent [1][2]. The past discussion [3] has a WSJ link which should be preferred over this. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grayzone [2]: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/06/02/grayzon... [3]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44268547

It'd probably be a stronger case if you could point out an inaccuracy in the article. In a sense it's implicit agreement to only criticise the identity of the source.

Re: US Army Appoints Palantir, Meta, OpenAI Execs as Lt. Colonels

#23
This is just a direct commission which is commonly done to integrate people into the military who have skills necessary for its continued operation but who don't have the time or need to go through the normal training, process, and schools.

It's how Pete Buttigieg got his commission, for example.

Re: US Army Appoints Palantir, Meta, OpenAI Execs as Lt. Colonels

#24
- [Palantir] A surveillance company used by by spy agencies

- [Meta] A social media company that has all your personal conversations & pictures, video, audio

- [Open AI] Something many people at work & school are uploading sensitive data to

- All run by acolytes of Peter Thiel

- Current president & vp are bankrolled Peter Thiel

- Top executives formally recruited into US Army.

USA is sleep walking into something very nasty. I still don't know what it is.

But please when it unravels. Let us not pretend we never saw it coming.

I am very worried about this. Something is being set up.

Re: US Army Appoints Palantir, Meta, OpenAI Execs as Lt. Colonels

#25
post #7

There's apparently a long history of honorary or symbolic reservist rank being given to civilian advisors; a good starting Google search is "dollar-a-year men".

The direct commission program is ordinarily used for medical providers and they are on the same payscale as everyone else that holds their rank.

But medical providers aren't commissioned as advisors, they're commissioned to actually deliver services, right?

Re: US Army Appoints Palantir, Meta, OpenAI Execs as Lt. Colonels

#26

Does this mean if you’re under them in the org chart you are a troop?

Gotta respect the chain of command and it looks like whoever came up with this was smart enough not to put infantry underneath them.

You’ll have to salute, though.

Re: US Army Appoints Palantir, Meta, OpenAI Execs as Lt. Colonels

#27
post #15

Grayzone is an extremely unreliable source which frequently publishes false stories with an anti-US bent [1][2]. The past discussion [3] has a WSJ link which should be preferred over this. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grayzone [2]: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/06/02/grayzon... [3]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44268547

It'd probably be a stronger case if you could point out an inaccuracy in the article. In a sense it's implicit agreement to only criticise the identity of the source.

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Re: US Army Appoints Palantir, Meta, OpenAI Execs as Lt. Colonels

#28
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The direct commission program is ordinarily used for medical providers and they are on the same payscale as everyone else that holds their rank.

But medical providers aren't commissioned as advisors, they're commissioned to actually deliver services, right?

I'm not aware of any contemporary cases where someone direct commissioned but agreed to a lower "dollar-a-year" payscale. I think our prior assumption should be that these four people are on O5 until we hear for sure.

Re: US Army Appoints Palantir, Meta, OpenAI Execs as Lt. Colonels

#29
post #14

Genuinely curious what legal waivers they’ve been afforded, since generally speaking “holding a decision-making position in the part of the uniformed services you also sell to” is very much adjacent to profiteering and disturbingly in the vicinity to honest services fraud. How do you disentangle private interests from the public good, even if these guys are operating in good faith? Also, give a brief thought to those…

I think the question is are the Armed Forces served better by having this expertise available (on a commissioned part-time basis, with modified basic requirements) or by maintaining a bar that the person has to go through OCS and pass APFT?

You probably can’t have both — not they couldn’t pass APFT (with varying degrees of fitness program required) but more likely they cannot commit the time required to do OCS and APFT, and if forced to choose will simply not participate.

It’ll stick in some people’s craw that this is dual standards, however you can’t please all the people all the time — someone concluded the compromise was worth it to obtain access to technology experience.

Re: US Army Appoints Palantir, Meta, OpenAI Execs as Lt. Colonels

#30

This seems a little weird to me, but direct commissions like this are pretty common for professionals like lawyers, clergy, and doctors.

That's why clergy and lawyers don't have skyrocketing valuations: because they are a predictable part of the system
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