The article is telling much more about the author than about men. The author appears to be exactly the kind of woman many men looking for actual love instead of just sex actively prefer to avoid.
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#22Might be closely related to the author's complains: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44348016
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#23Why should one ever court a woman on a date, if 98% of the time you are not allowed to interrupt her dabbling with her smartphone?
As if they were afraid of talking.
Most of them only want dinner and taxi for free and have three pics for insta: one of the dinner, one of the dessert and one of the fool paying.
I met my girlfriend at a metro station just like that, unprepared, both with empty smartphones, we exchanged the numbers oldschool, on napkins.
Just avoid any situation that looks like "dating" - too many rules, expectations and pretexts. Too much lying and deceptions.
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#24As a father of a son, this is heartbreaking. I understand the motivation behind #metoo as outrage against predatory men. Men and women alike feel this outrage. But it's gone too far. My 39 year old single son was publicly shamed by Gen Z people around him for approaching a 22 yr old woman. Last I checked, 22 yr old women are adults who can say no if they want. It feels to me like my son has given up in this environme…
Why approach a 22 yr old though when you are 39? Nothing about that makes any sense. He could literally be her father.
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#25This is a really weird article. For one, I'm shocked that the New York Times would even publish this from an editorial perspective because it has the ChatGPT's streaks all over it. Second. Reading a eulogy for late-stage hook-up culture written by someone old enough to be by mother is awkward. Worst of all, and I hate be crude, but she has to romanticize, I'm so sorry, I hate to say it...getting piped and objectified…
I didn't get LLM vibes at all.
But I completely agree with you. She sounds like a cougar. And, worse, apparently has no ability for introspection - for herself or her collective gender.
I'm not saying that she or women are "the problem" in this story, but surely the question must be raised. Eg "ladies, do we have a part to play in this disappearance of men?"
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#26As a father of a son, this is heartbreaking. I understand the motivation behind #metoo as outrage against predatory men. Men and women alike feel this outrage. But it's gone too far. My 39 year old single son was publicly shamed by Gen Z people around him for approaching a 22 yr old woman. Last I checked, 22 yr old women are adults who can say no if they want. It feels to me like my son has given up in this environme…
Why approach a 22 yr old though when you are 39? Nothing about that makes any sense. He could literally be her father.
Well, didn't you just prove his point and your comment is exactly the same sort of finger wagging, virtue signalling bs that got us here. SHE IS 22, SHE IS AN ADULT! If you think that throughout history, 40 year old men have NOT sought out younger woman to mate with, you're fucking delusional. SHE IS AN ADULT, GET THAT THROUGH YOUR HEAD. Your "disgust" over the relationship is no different then having disgust over a black man dating a white woman. Go outside and touch grass.
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#27This "woman" is so original, she had to use Chat GPT to write her article. So, after decades of letting universities sell kids an "experience" and shoveling them into the mass brainwashing humanities departments, where young woman are taught to hate men by bull dyke lesbian professors this "author" is wondering why men are absent? Married with kids, and a divorce? You can bet the man will be getting the shitty end of the stick. You can bet the man will be paying all the expenses, you can bet the man will be blamed for everything. Look at a woman on the street who's wearing a thong bikini as she goes to pick up groceries? You're an animal who was raping her with your eyes. Want to make a connection with a woman you adore? Oh wait, she's got her checklist of requirements you need to meet before that will happen. And they wonder why.
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#28As a father of a son, this is heartbreaking. I understand the motivation behind #metoo as outrage against predatory men. Men and women alike feel this outrage. But it's gone too far. My 39 year old single son was publicly shamed by Gen Z people around him for approaching a 22 yr old woman. Last I checked, 22 yr old women are adults who can say no if they want. It feels to me like my son has given up in this environme…
Why approach a 22 yr old though when you are 39? Nothing about that makes any sense. He could literally be her father.
That's a very Gen Z attitude that appears to be common. It's not shared among people of older generations. A 22 year old is an adult that can determine who she wants to date without a bunch of young femininst men rushing to defend her, which is what happened to my son. "May June romances" are a thing throughout history. Only recently have we expanded this to include young men and older women.
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Why approach a 22 yr old though when you are 39? Nothing about that makes any sense. He could literally be her father.
That's a very Gen Z attitude that appears to be common. It's not shared among people of older generations. A 22 year old is an adult that can determine who she wants to date without a bunch of young femininst men rushing to defend her, which is what happened to my son. "May June romances" are a thing throughout history. Only recently have we expanded this to include young men and older women.
No, that's an "everyone younger than a boomer" attitude about age differences in relationships. In the early '00s I remember the "half your age + 7" rule being a decent guideline for what's socially acceptable. That would put your son's lower limit at 26.5.
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's a very Gen Z attitude that appears to be common. It's not shared among people of older generations. A 22 year old is an adult that can determine who she wants to date without a bunch of young femininst men rushing to defend her, which is what happened to my son. "May June romances" are a thing throughout history. Only recently have we expanded this to include young men and older women.
No, that's an "everyone younger than a boomer" attitude about age differences in relationships. In the early '00s I remember the "half your age + 7" rule being a decent guideline for what's socially acceptable. That would put your son's lower limit at 26.5.
So if a 22 year old woman wanted to date a 39 year old man you would discourage it and call it socially unacceptable? What if she was really wanted to? Or have younger generations now infantalized young women and decided they can't make up their own minds?