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New Linux udisks flaw lets attackers get root on major Linux distros

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Re: New Linux udisks flaw lets attackers get root on major Linux distros

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

An exploit chain, like combining it with the PAM issue they mentioned in the very same article, affecting Fedora.

The article was about two issues that combine to make a single local-privilege-escalation, so the PAM thing isn't a separate exploit chain, it's just part of getting local root in this vulnerability. What the parent poster meant is that you first need a way to run arbitrary code before local privilege escalation matters, so the exploit chain has to include _something_ that gets you local code execution. I tend to agr…

Some services dont run as the same user logging into the laptop.

Re: New Linux udisks flaw lets attackers get root on major Linux distros

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As someone who has been using linux quite happily on the desktop for more than 20 years now, I have to say it remains an eternal experiment, feature wise as well as security wise.

That's certainly an interesting standpoint. I use both privately and professionally and while I accept that security-wise (even with selinux) they feel lacking , feature-wise they far exceed Windows I use as my other is except in gaming experience. I wish I had something like GrapheneOS on desktops (yes I know about Qubes)

Qubes is definitely hard to daily drive. With it's ancient default XFCE design, it looks really ugly. Plus no hardware acceleration

Re: New Linux udisks flaw lets attackers get root on major Linux distros

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's certainly an interesting standpoint. I use both privately and professionally and while I accept that security-wise (even with selinux) they feel lacking , feature-wise they far exceed Windows I use as my other is except in gaming experience. I wish I had something like GrapheneOS on desktops (yes I know about Qubes)

same! qubes is probably the actual solution for now, but i've seen some grapheneos people work on https://secureblue.dev/ and that seems a lot more "normal"

I have been meaning to try out secureblue and hopefully even run it on production VMs in proxmox. Is it stable yet?

Re: New Linux udisks flaw lets attackers get root on major Linux distros

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The article was about two issues that combine to make a single local-privilege-escalation, so the PAM thing isn't a separate exploit chain, it's just part of getting local root in this vulnerability. What the parent poster meant is that you first need a way to run arbitrary code before local privilege escalation matters, so the exploit chain has to include _something_ that gets you local code execution. I tend to agr…

> ...for most modern single-user linux devices, local privilege escalation means almost nothing. I haven't actually looked at the numbers, but I strongly suspect that it's true that the overwhelming majority of single-user Linux devices out there are Android devices. If that's true, then it's my understanding that Android does bother to fairly properly sandbox programs from each other... so an escalation to root woul…

Does Android use Udisks? I assumed it did not, due to the difference in architecture over most traditional GNU/Linux desktop systems

Re: New Linux udisks flaw lets attackers get root on major Linux distros

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As someone who has been using linux quite happily on the desktop for more than 20 years now, I have to say it remains an eternal experiment, feature wise as well as security wise.

>20 years ago

So while Windows was letting everyone be root?

Re: New Linux udisks flaw lets attackers get root on major Linux distros

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As someone who has been using linux quite happily on the desktop for more than 20 years now, I have to say it remains an eternal experiment, feature wise as well as security wise.

What especially feels like an experiment is container technology.

Re: New Linux udisks flaw lets attackers get root on major Linux distros

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> ...for most modern single-user linux devices, local privilege escalation means almost nothing. I haven't actually looked at the numbers, but I strongly suspect that it's true that the overwhelming majority of single-user Linux devices out there are Android devices. If that's true, then it's my understanding that Android does bother to fairly properly sandbox programs from each other... so an escalation to root woul…

Does Android use Udisks? I assumed it did not, due to the difference in architecture over most traditional GNU/Linux desktop systems

I have no idea if Android uses udisks. It has been something like a decade since I last looked at 'ps' output on an Android machine, so any information on the topic I might have had has faded away with time.

Re: New Linux udisks flaw lets attackers get root on major Linux distros

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As someone who has been using linux quite happily on the desktop for more than 20 years now, I have to say it remains an eternal experiment, feature wise as well as security wise.

Re:"Eternal experiment"... have you seen Windows 11? Or even 10? The devs can't keep their hands off of the thing, changing, breaking and fixing every component every few months.

Re: New Linux udisks flaw lets attackers get root on major Linux distros

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post #27
post #2

As someone who has been using linux quite happily on the desktop for more than 20 years now, I have to say it remains an eternal experiment, feature wise as well as security wise.

What especially feels like an experiment is container technology.

how much harder is container escaping compared to vm escaping? i understand that containers are not truly meant to be security boundaries but they are often thought of and even used as such.
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