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Missing Matter in Universe Found

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Re: Missing Matter in Universe Found

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This study accounts for missing ordinary matter, not dark matter. The linked article makes this clear in the first paragraph. Sometimes I wonder if the first commenters (and often top commenters) on HN read the article at all or just respond based on the headline, because these comments often seem barely related to the actual article content.

I had read the entire article, and it was not clear.

> Unlike dark matter, ordinary matter emits light of various wavelengths and thus can be seen. But a large chunk of it is diffuse and spread thinly among halos that surround galaxies as well as in the vast spaces between galaxies.

> Due to its diffuse nature, roughly half of ordinary matter in the universe went unaccounted for and had been considered "missing"—until now.

Not being mean, genuine question: How would you improve the clarity of this?

Re: Missing Matter in Universe Found

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Light is always light and has always the same speed but its path in a gas is less straightforward than in a vacuum because of the interactions with atoms. It takes longer to get through. Its speed as we can measure it is c divided by the refractive index of the gas, if I'm not wrong. Same thing for light in a liquid or in a solid. Example: speeds of radio waves in networking cables https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veloc…

Yep. And then journalists wonder why people don't like them. How much harder would it be to write "measuring how much longer would it take for the light to get to us" without making people feel gaslit next time they are told speed of light is obviously always the same

Is assuming the audience has knowledge of fundamentals or the intellectual curiosity of their own to pursue it wrong? If every article had to describe the most basic aspects of physics, they would be books and significantly harder to understand due to breathiness.

Re: Missing Matter in Universe Found

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Yep. And then journalists wonder why people don't like them. How much harder would it be to write "measuring how much longer would it take for the light to get to us" without making people feel gaslit next time they are told speed of light is obviously always the same

Is assuming the audience has knowledge of fundamentals or the intellectual curiosity of their own to pursue it wrong? If every article had to describe the most basic aspects of physics, they would be books and significantly harder to understand due to breathiness.

If it was written for scientific audiences it would use proper terms instead of factually wrong "light slows down". It's not "easier to understand" when it is wrong. Speed of light does not change.

Re: Missing Matter in Universe Found

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Is assuming the audience has knowledge of fundamentals or the intellectual curiosity of their own to pursue it wrong? If every article had to describe the most basic aspects of physics, they would be books and significantly harder to understand due to breathiness.

If it was written for scientific audiences it would use proper terms instead of factually wrong "light slows down". It's not "easier to understand" when it is wrong. Speed of light does not change.

The speed of light in a vacuum does not change. The speed of light in a non-vacuum medium can be different than the speed of light in a vacuum, however. And light passing from one medium to another changes speed (and is refracted). See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refractive_index

Re: Missing Matter in Universe Found

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Is assuming the audience has knowledge of fundamentals or the intellectual curiosity of their own to pursue it wrong? If every article had to describe the most basic aspects of physics, they would be books and significantly harder to understand due to breathiness.

If it was written for scientific audiences it would use proper terms instead of factually wrong "light slows down". It's not "easier to understand" when it is wrong. Speed of light does not change.

Weird, those of us who knew what refraction was knew what they meant just fine. Saying light "slows down" in alternative mediums is the normal way to communicate it.

Re: Missing Matter in Universe Found

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If it was written for scientific audiences it would use proper terms instead of factually wrong "light slows down". It's not "easier to understand" when it is wrong. Speed of light does not change.

Weird, those of us who knew what refraction was knew what they meant just fine. Saying light "slows down" in alternative mediums is the normal way to communicate it.

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