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Why China is giving away its tech for free

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Re: Why China is giving away its tech for free

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It is about destroying the industry which the West have a stronghold in. Giving it away for free, in the name of Open source also attract a lot of " common interest ", those from Europe who want to break free of US, and those from US who wants US to fail, and companies who simply want another company to fail so they could gain competitive advantage. And China is very happy to help. It has been blatantly obvious for t…

Think: How did they target all of those Iranian scientists? Most likely through their phones. They can just track you if they wanted to. Everybody knows it. This sentiment is part of why the USA will lose the propaganda war. There is no amount of propaganda the USA can make to remedy this reality.

What on earth are you talking about?

Is your argument that the Chinese will win a propaganda war concerning the surveillance state?

Re: Why China is giving away its tech for free

#22
post #7

This is in queue, will update with final URL if successful. Edit: This just jumped from #7 in queue to #2380 in queue. I should have used another service. https://archive.ph/wip/hOIIa If/when it completes, it should be here: https://archive.ph/hOIIa

Just use bypass paywall clean (firefox extension, desktop (win I assume everywhere), android)

https://gitflic.ru/project/magnolia1234/bpc_uploads (or check X/Nitter)

Re: Why China is giving away its tech for free

#23
post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But it s not , it has made a resurgence and piracy is way down. (Except if you re big digital tech, you are allowed to use anything any way you want)

Its lawyers forcing copyright to stay alive. But it isn't sustainable is what I mean. A lot of TV is free now (with ads), media is less profitable using their old system. The future is open, they're just buying time. Piracy can never end because copyright is fictitious. See, I could set up a system where I charge you for air by tracking your every breath, but that would be stupid since air is just available. There is…

A major distinction is that someone has to actually produce the content you want to consume, unlike air (though we are trying to make clean air more scarce), which is why no one owns air.

How is software, music, or any other easily copied product created and distributed under your system?

Re: Why China is giving away its tech for free

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post #7

This is in queue, will update with final URL if successful. Edit: This just jumped from #7 in queue to #2380 in queue. I should have used another service. https://archive.ph/wip/hOIIa If/when it completes, it should be here: https://archive.ph/hOIIa

Just use bypass paywall clean (firefox extension, desktop (win I assume everywhere), android) https://gitflic.ru/project/magnolia1234/bpc_uploads (or check X/Nitter)

Still 545 in the queue. Ouch.

Re: Why China is giving away its tech for free

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post #7

This is in queue, will update with final URL if successful. Edit: This just jumped from #7 in queue to #2380 in queue. I should have used another service. https://archive.ph/wip/hOIIa If/when it completes, it should be here: https://archive.ph/hOIIa

Looks like the Economist has discovered a way to prevent archive.ph from functioning.

Re: Why China is giving away its tech for free

#26
post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its lawyers forcing copyright to stay alive. But it isn't sustainable is what I mean. A lot of TV is free now (with ads), media is less profitable using their old system. The future is open, they're just buying time. Piracy can never end because copyright is fictitious. See, I could set up a system where I charge you for air by tracking your every breath, but that would be stupid since air is just available. There is…

A major distinction is that someone has to actually produce the content you want to consume, unlike air (though we are trying to make clean air more scarce), which is why no one owns air. How is software, music, or any other easily copied product created and distributed under your system?

Patronage, crowdsourcing and crowdfunding, volunteering. Anything that doesn't require putting a policeman, either real or virtual, behind every users back.

Re: Why China is giving away its tech for free

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post #7

This is in queue, will update with final URL if successful. Edit: This just jumped from #7 in queue to #2380 in queue. I should have used another service. https://archive.ph/wip/hOIIa If/when it completes, it should be here: https://archive.ph/hOIIa

Looks like the Economist has discovered a way to prevent archive.ph from functioning.

This link is now working.

https://archive.ph/HCAQj

Re: Why China is giving away its tech for free

#28
post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Think: How did they target all of those Iranian scientists? Most likely through their phones. They can just track you if they wanted to. Everybody knows it. This sentiment is part of why the USA will lose the propaganda war. There is no amount of propaganda the USA can make to remedy this reality.

What on earth are you talking about? Is your argument that the Chinese will win a propaganda war concerning the surveillance state?

Yeah, in a sense.

The US' software domination has really spooked a lot of people and nation states. No one really trusts US tech companies.

And sure, "everybody spies", but that in and of itself will bring a lot more competition and privacy focus, hopefully.

China will take advantage of that sentiment. They don't have to win the war personally, just the US has to lose it. India is already trying to develop its own phones, China will only keep going.

No one really trusts US tech on a global scale.

Re: Why China is giving away its tech for free

#29
post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its lawyers forcing copyright to stay alive. But it isn't sustainable is what I mean. A lot of TV is free now (with ads), media is less profitable using their old system. The future is open, they're just buying time. Piracy can never end because copyright is fictitious. See, I could set up a system where I charge you for air by tracking your every breath, but that would be stupid since air is just available. There is…

A major distinction is that someone has to actually produce the content you want to consume, unlike air (though we are trying to make clean air more scarce), which is why no one owns air. How is software, music, or any other easily copied product created and distributed under your system?

The same way a lot of cool video content/research/products are: crowd source.

Even air can be monetized if you have the right legal team and tech. And we're all random working class people who can't afford a good lawyer even when we need it so... go figure.

Copying is built into all of our hardware/software. To keep extending copyright you have to either end privacy or neuter hardware/software.

Re: Why China is giving away its tech for free

#30
post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A major distinction is that someone has to actually produce the content you want to consume, unlike air (though we are trying to make clean air more scarce), which is why no one owns air. How is software, music, or any other easily copied product created and distributed under your system?

The same way a lot of cool video content/research/products are: crowd source. Even air can be monetized if you have the right legal team and tech. And we're all random working class people who can't afford a good lawyer even when we need it so... go figure. Copying is built into all of our hardware/software. To keep extending copyright you have to either end privacy or neuter hardware/software.

So people can create digital things but have no permission to control how their creation is consumed or used? And only digital things have this limitation?

Sounds like a recipe for many people to avoid sharing their digital creations with others. And your claim that those are the only two ways to give creators some control over their creations is absurd.

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