Hello was invented for phone conversations. It doesn't make sense if the conversation isn't verbal.
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#22A similar guideline has been around on IRC networks for as long as I can remember. Many channels include it in their 'topic' or have a bot that reminds users: Don't ask to ask, just ask. See also https://netsplit.de/channels/?chat=don%27t+ask+to+ask >.
The first startup I worked at used IRC - well before slack etc. I hadn’t touched it since I was a teenager and think I managed to violate just about every internal channel guideline. Took me a minute to understand what “echan” meant.
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#23My life hack for this kind of situation is to say “hello” back. Works every time.
it does not, some people don't understand it. I tried every trick and one guy was still sending his hello's because it was the way he communicated. I told him twice, literally, that he cannot just say hello and wait for me to reply, and he apologized and still didn't get it.
the only working option is to ignore such people, you cannot teach people with reasoning, it never works
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#24My life hack for this kind of situation is to say “hello” back. Works every time.
It opens a synchronous channel, setting social expectations for somewhat realtime responses. Most of the time I treat chat like "small email", so this is abhorrent.
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#25I see this more often when someone desires synchronous, multi-turn interaction, not simply "when is that thing starting again?". Things where they aren't exactly sure how to ask the question so they want to rely on you asking questions back and then together zeroing in on the solution of some issue.
Sure, but it’s still silly.
“Hey, I’m having some trouble figuring this thing out, here’s where I’m confused: … .
It’s absurd to expect someone to play 20 questions with you to figure out what your problem is.
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#26My life hack for this kind of situation is to say “hello” back. Works every time.
Wave emoji reaction, then I go back to what I was doing until the rest of the question lands. It's quicker!
although these days I sometimes respond "how was your weekend" to continue the pleasantries :D
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#27It's 2025, we should be able to use LLMs to adapt between communication styles.
If someone I don't know "hello"s me, my LLM should detect that, suppress the notification, and reply automatically - and then resume notifications and defer to me once non-greeting conversation has started.
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#28counterpoint - Sometimes I do this for myself to prompt myself into a reply when I'm finding it hard to compose the message. Once I've said something, no matter how small, I know I have to follow up within in a couple of minutes. It's like a kind of short-term Ulysses pact.
Also I'd say this depends on your existing work culture - I've been in places where the expectation is that everyone has Slack messages muted. If anything was really that time sensitive it's still possible to pick up the phone.
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#29My wife, god bless her, is really good with people. I try very hard to mimic her, but this multi-round interaction has completely permeated how she interacts over tech, even with tech. I cannot manage it.
Her: "Alexa, add to shopping list". "OK, what should I add for you". "Peanut butter". "OK, peanut butter added, what else?". .
Me: "Alexa add peanut butter to shopping list". "Peanut butter added".
Some people are TCP. Some are UDP.
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#30do we have a version for this to people who call you out of blue?
they have a single question and could type it out or email you, instead than ring to you
if you don't have the power to tell people to f- off, the only option left is to accept it and either play their game or ignore a type of behavior you don't want to reward