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How Frogger 2’s source code was recovered from a destroyed tape [video]

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Re: How Frogger 2’s source code was recovered from a destroyed tape [video]

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The source code: https://github.com/HighwayFrogs/frogger2-vss I enjoyed skimming through this: https://github.com/HighwayFrogs/frogger2-vss/blob/main/teamS...

Committing ASCII-art of a scantily clad woman is quite the power move.

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> Encryption for 30 years ago? Trivially breakable with quantum I wouldn't be so sure - quantum computers aren't nearly as effective for symmetric algorithms as they are for pre-quantum asymmetric algorithms.

Regardless of the parent's statement, just normal compute in 30 years, plus general vulnerabilities and weaknesses discovered, will ensure that anything encrypted today is easily readable in the future. I can't think of anything from 30 years ago that isn't just a joke today. The same will likely be true by 2050, quantum computing or not. I wonder how many people realise this? Even if one disagrees with my certainty,…

> I can't think of anything from 30 years ago that isn't just a joke today

The gold standard 30 years ago was PGP. RSA 1024 or 2048 for key exchange. IDEA symmetric cipher.

This combination is, as far as I am aware, still practically cryptographically secure. Though maybe not in another 10 or 20 years. (RSA 1024 is not that far from brute forcing with classical machines.)

Re: How Frogger 2’s source code was recovered from a destroyed tape [video]

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Regardless of the parent's statement, just normal compute in 30 years, plus general vulnerabilities and weaknesses discovered, will ensure that anything encrypted today is easily readable in the future. I can't think of anything from 30 years ago that isn't just a joke today. The same will likely be true by 2050, quantum computing or not. I wonder how many people realise this? Even if one disagrees with my certainty,…

> I can't think of anything from 30 years ago that isn't just a joke today. AES is only 3 years shy of 30. If you used MD5 as a keystream generator I believe that would still be secure and that's 33 years old. 3DES is still pretty secure, isn't it? That's 44 years old. As for today's data, there's always risk into the future but we've gotten better as making secure algorithms over time and avoiding quantum attacks se…

I'll concede your point re: current status of some encryption. However there are loads that were comprised.

How do you tell which will fall, and which will succeed in 30 years?

All this said, I just think proper mental framing helps. Considering the value of encrypted data, in 30 years, if it is broken.

In many cases... who cares. In others, it could be unpleasant.

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Committing ASCII-art of a scantily clad woman is quite the power move.

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I feel this was an ‘of it’s time’ thing, but I am so glad we have moved on from this. I wouldn’t enjoy working in a workplace where this was acceptable.

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I feel this was an ‘of it’s time’ thing, but I am so glad we have moved on from this. I wouldn’t enjoy working in a workplace where this was acceptable.

It's an ASCII art of a nude woman. So what? It just seems like such a busybody thing to get one's feathers ruffled over.

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I feel this was an ‘of it’s time’ thing, but I am so glad we have moved on from this. I wouldn’t enjoy working in a workplace where this was acceptable.

The consequence is that the workplace is a sterile no mans land and you're better off remote.

Like I said: if being there were actually meaningful it might make sense to be there.

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I feel this was an ‘of it’s time’ thing, but I am so glad we have moved on from this. I wouldn’t enjoy working in a workplace where this was acceptable.

It's an ASCII art of a nude woman. So what? It just seems like such a busybody thing to get one's feathers ruffled over.

It's teenager-ish, and the kind of thing that would make people uncomfortable if they saw it at our own workplaces. We can argue about whether companies 'should' punish people for stuff like this, but I can say for sure that I don't feel like I'm missing out on much here.

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It's an ASCII art of a nude woman. So what? It just seems like such a busybody thing to get one's feathers ruffled over.

It's teenager-ish, and the kind of thing that would make people uncomfortable if they saw it at our own workplaces. We can argue about whether companies 'should' punish people for stuff like this, but I can say for sure that I don't feel like I'm missing out on much here.

I still design and add banners to my servers' MOTD to add a little fun to my day. No NSFW stuff, however.

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> Makes you wonder how easy or difficult it will be in 30 years to 'recover' data from today. The challenges will be different. Flash loses its charge in 30 years, most disks are encrypted, and on-site physical backups are mostly a thing of the past. The source might survive in a cloud repo, but it'll either be tied up for legal reasons or deleted when the customer stops paying the bill. But storage is cheap and gett…

Easy. The “deleted” even overwritten data can leave ghosts even multiple layers deep (think of a clay tablet or painting with multiple inscriptions) Encryption for 30 years ago? Trivially breakable with quantum

Not this tripe again.

The reality is, as soon as humanity figures out how to distinguish between two values (magnetic flux, voltage, pits/lands, etc) we use it to store more data, or move it faster.

The end.

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It's teenager-ish, and the kind of thing that would make people uncomfortable if they saw it at our own workplaces. We can argue about whether companies 'should' punish people for stuff like this, but I can say for sure that I don't feel like I'm missing out on much here.

I still design and add banners to my servers' MOTD to add a little fun to my day. No NSFW stuff, however.

Mine is a corporate style # rectangle but instead of legal crap it just says "msgodel's laptop/vps/robot/whatever\n Be Nice!"
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