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Waymo rides cost more than Uber or Lyft and people are paying anyway

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Re: Waymo rides cost more than Uber or Lyft and people are paying anyway

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The photo in the pictures is a brand new Jaguar. Just sayin’ I was under the impression they use Chrysler minvans, but I’d pay more to ride in a late model Jaguar than some random Hyundai.

> I was under the impression they use Chrysler minvans

They used to, but retired them May 1, 2023: https://support.google.com/waymo/answer/13559409

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post #6

I'm willing to pay more for a better ride experience: * Waymos are all the same. I underrated the value of this until I started taking Waymo more often. * I can control the music and volume with my phone. * I can listen to YouTube or take a call without AirPods. Sometimes I even hotspot and do some work. But most importantly Waymos all _drive_ the same way. I have had some really perplexing Uber drivers, either drivi…

Same here. Waymo doesn’t make me feel car sick, while aggressiveness-incentivized uber/lyft drivers do.

Thinking of incentives, I wonder what happens when self driving is “solved” to the point they can start nickel and dime optimizing. I wonder if waymo starts driving overly aggressively at that point too.

Re: Waymo rides cost more than Uber or Lyft and people are paying anyway

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The photo in the pictures is a brand new Jaguar. Just sayin’ I was under the impression they use Chrysler minvans, but I’d pay more to ride in a late model Jaguar than some random Hyundai.

Every Waymo I’ve ridden in is a Jaguar I-PACE. I’m at 31 rides LA/SF.

Re: Waymo rides cost more than Uber or Lyft and people are paying anyway

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post #11

At least half my recent rides in Ubers/Lyft have been drivers that shouldn’t be on the road, I’d happily pay more for a Waymo.

i've had quite a few experiences with AWFUL uber drivers as well. i think it would be beneficial for uber to require some sort of ODB monitoring like some insurance companies do. one time on a trip to the airport, i almost had the driver pull over on the side of the road to let me know. i was GENUINELY scared by her driving.

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post #8

The article doesn't mention if tips are included in their calculation (I suspect not). Are Uber/Lyft still cheaper after a 10-15% tip?

My thoughts exactly. I usually tip well - too well if I’m drinking and that’s usually when I’m taking an Uber.

Re: Waymo rides cost more than Uber or Lyft and people are paying anyway

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The photo in the pictures is a brand new Jaguar. Just sayin’ I was under the impression they use Chrysler minvans, but I’d pay more to ride in a late model Jaguar than some random Hyundai.

That's what all the Waymo's look like. They did some testing in Chrysler minivans, now they're testing in BYD vehicles. But the rides are in those Jaguars (ya know, the ones burning in LA).

> now they're testing in BYD vehicles

I hadn't heard that. Did you mean Geely Zeekr?

https://waymo.com/blog/2021/12/expanding-our-waymo-one-fleet...

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post #12

Electronic vehicles have made riding in Uber's an almost uniformly nauseating experience (literally). In order of preference I will walk/bike -> public transit -> Waymo -> drive myself -> consider staying at home -> Uber/Lyft

> Electronic vehicles have made riding in Uber's an almost uniformly nauseating experience I've heard this a lot. Are drivers heavily accelerating and decelerating?

Depends on the driver, but over the years I’ve gotten a decent number who floor it out of every stop sign/light and don’t adequately modulate speed to match the flow of traffic. With how quickly EVs accelerate I could see that making for a less than pleasant ride.

Re: Waymo rides cost more than Uber or Lyft and people are paying anyway

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post #8

The article doesn't mention if tips are included in their calculation (I suspect not). Are Uber/Lyft still cheaper after a 10-15% tip?

Assuming the rides are comparable, the article has a table which includes price/km (weird) of Lyft: $7.99, Uber: $8.36, and Waymo: $11.22. On that data, Waymo is roughly 40% higher, so way more than just a tip.

Re: Waymo rides cost more than Uber or Lyft and people are paying anyway

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post #2

Interesting. Very little about the underlying reasons for this. Maybe it's driven by curiosity/awe for the new experience? Maybe being alone in the car makes a better ride?

I pay a premium for Waymos. No need to tip, or even think about whether one should tip. The ride won’t cancel on me, which makes it more reliable. (Waymos are also more consistently clean.) I can take phone calls without worrying about my rider rating. And yeah, they’re more fun because they're novel.

The tip piece is interesting - that'd close a big chunk of the price gap, if people are tipping 10-20%

Re: Waymo rides cost more than Uber or Lyft and people are paying anyway

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post #12

Electronic vehicles have made riding in Uber's an almost uniformly nauseating experience (literally). In order of preference I will walk/bike -> public transit -> Waymo -> drive myself -> consider staying at home -> Uber/Lyft

> Electronic vehicles have made riding in Uber's an almost uniformly nauseating experience I've heard this a lot. Are drivers heavily accelerating and decelerating?

The worst is Revel, which, in NYC, are ALL teslas/EVs. worst taxi experience of my life was a 1 hr drive to airport in stop and go street light traffic. I appreciated the hustle but deleted the app soon after my gag reflex subsided. they should at least disable regenerative braking or something
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