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Curtis Yarvin's Plot Against America

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Re: Curtis Yarvin's Plot Against America

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Scott Alexander also recently had a take on Curtis Yarvin’s recent actions: https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/moldbug-sold-out The gist of it is that he had interesting ideas on political systems in the past, but that his current ideas are nonsense, and in fact his old work explains exactly why his new work is nonsense.

Precisely, I'm not sure why Curtis is kept being discussed when if you listened to him now, it's all nonsense.

Re: Curtis Yarvin's Plot Against America

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Scott Alexander also recently had a take on Curtis Yarvin’s recent actions: https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/moldbug-sold-out The gist of it is that he had interesting ideas on political systems in the past, but that his current ideas are nonsense, and in fact his old work explains exactly why his new work is nonsense.

I mean, "interesting" but still autocratic. His old ideas were nonsense too; unworkable teenage thought experiments dressed up as serious proposals. His new work just happens to be internally inconsistent as well as bad in all the other ways it always was.

Re: Curtis Yarvin's Plot Against America

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The society of Snow Crash is a dystopia, not something we should want to implement.

Especially that whole ‘listening to reason’ thing ..

Well. I dunno, actually.

In some ways, I do want The Feed. But in other ways, I definitely don’t want Drummers. Okay, some aspects of Drummers.

Re: Curtis Yarvin's Plot Against America

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post #5

Scott Alexander also recently had a take on Curtis Yarvin’s recent actions: https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/moldbug-sold-out The gist of it is that he had interesting ideas on political systems in the past, but that his current ideas are nonsense, and in fact his old work explains exactly why his new work is nonsense.

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Re: Curtis Yarvin's Plot Against America

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I mentioned this previously, but I frequently think back to Gibson's "Jackpot" -- a cross-lashed, polycausal catastrophe: Lots of bad little things accumulating, building up a certain momentum. I think that even as far back as 2009, an astute observer would have noticed that society is beginning to burn through its seed corn. In some places, things are now getting extremely acute: https://www.neilobrien.co.uk/p/the-c…

> society is beginning to burn through its seed corn

This is mostly true in the US, where a defining characteristic of the population is a belief that we cannot do better or have more, that things will always continue to get worse, and that everyone is out to take advantage of you all the time.

Other countries continue to invest in the future. China, among others, do not suffer the current American fatalism.

Re: Curtis Yarvin's Plot Against America

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post #5

Scott Alexander also recently had a take on Curtis Yarvin’s recent actions: https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/moldbug-sold-out The gist of it is that he had interesting ideas on political systems in the past, but that his current ideas are nonsense, and in fact his old work explains exactly why his new work is nonsense.

The style of this post reminds me a lot of Matt Levine's money stuff.

Re: Curtis Yarvin's Plot Against America

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His tenets would be at home in the mind of a 16th century european king, and yet they now make up the core of American politics.

There is no way America shakes this insanity off easily, it will require a long time and (lots of) suffering.

Re: Curtis Yarvin's Plot Against America

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It's pretty sad that loonies like this get a platform at all. The ultimate irony is that New Yorker in this case is writing an article about him, mocking his views...yet legitimizing them at the same time by associating their name with this kind of person at all. How is this guy different from any other of the thousands moderately-successful tech people with an obscure hobby project (Urbit). Just because of his far-o…

His views are being implemented by the sitting US government. I understand the moral dilemma of it not being good to platform and broadcast these views, but under the circumstances, I'd argue there's also a duty to inform people of this looming danger.

Re: Curtis Yarvin's Plot Against America

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The society of Snow Crash is a dystopia, not something we should want to implement.

The biggest mistake the Cyberpunk authors made was making their dystopia look so cool and then assuming we’d actually read the book.

https://twitter.com/AlexBlechman/status/1457842724128833538

> Sci-Fi Author: In my book I invented the Torment Nexus as a cautionary tale

> Tech Company: At long last, we have created the Torment Nexus from classic sci-fi novel Don't Create The Torment Nexus

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