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Ask HN: Cloud vs. Edge Computing–Why Choose a Local NAS?

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Re: Ask HN: Cloud vs. Edge Computing–Why Choose a Local NAS?

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I can't fill out the survey because I do not have access, so my answers are below. Cloud vs. Edge: Why choose a local NAS over iCloud, OneDrive, etc.? Cost, privacy, performance? Primarily privacy and control over my data. Fun to tinker with. Use Case: What tasks would your NAS handle? Jellyfin, Frigate, backups, AI/ML? Just storage, I can run a separate server that has all workloads. Performance: How key is CPU powe…

take a look at the aoostar wtr pro/wtr max

Re: Ask HN: Cloud vs. Edge Computing–Why Choose a Local NAS?

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Cloud vs. Edge: Why choose a local NAS over iCloud, OneDrive, etc.? Cost, privacy, performance?

Cost, privacy, sometimes performance, mostly because I can run it the way I want it to, so control

Use Case: What tasks would your NAS handle? Jellyfin, Frigate, backups, AI/ML?

My current NAS does all of it, jellyfin, home assistant, backups, LLMs, all the docker apps, etc.

Performance: How key is CPU power, power efficiency, or upgradability (e.g., PCIe slots)? Your LAN speed (1, 2.5, 10, 25 Gbps)?

I have multiple minipcs, 7840HS, N150, etc. NAS is a 5825U. Don't care about pcie slots, can always get an egpu dock if I want later and the 780M is "good enough" for LLMs especially since vram is no longer the limiter with GTT (can do ~112GB VRAM on a 7840/8845HS w/ 128GB RAM if one wants to, but t/s is slow)

LAN speed is just gigabit. If I wanted to upgrade I could get a 2.5gbe managed switch but I just don't currently see the need to. Keeping it simple where I can.

Storage: Preferred drive bay count (2, 6, 8+)? NVMe cache for reads/writes? Ideal capacity (10 TB, 50 TB+)?

4-6

no nvme cache needed, but nvme storage pool used for current NAS.

capacity doesn't matter, can buy/shuck/get used enterprise drives myself.

OS: TrueNAS, Unraid, OpenMediaVault, Linux, or no preference? TrueNAS because ZFS. Or give me a ceph option.

Design: Appearance matter? Displayed or hidden? I don't like trashcan look, synology form factor is nice/aesthetic.

Budget: Ideal price (excluding drives)?

$300-500

Pain Points: What frustrates you about NAS or cloud solutions? Killer feature to switch?

NAS: coil whine, poor QC, no PCIe slot (or it costs way too much)

cloud: subscription hell

switch: already use self-hosted minipcs/NAS.

Your thoughts will build a better NAS. Would you back this on Kickstarter? Thanks!

No, for multiple reasons:

unless you have something unique to bring to the table that aoostar/ugreen/etc. have not brought to the table yet, and

don't do a kickstarter, it has historically been full of scams (such as storaxa if you look them up). Put it on a platform that guarantees a product for money such as a shopify storefront, etc.

Re: Ask HN: Cloud vs. Edge Computing–Why Choose a Local NAS?

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The biggest issue to me is one of security. You have to find a way to expose your NAS to access outside the home to make it truly as convenient as the big tech cloud services. Some vendors help do this for you (Synology with QuickConnect); otherwise you're probably thinking about always using something like Tailscale or setting up a reverse proxy on a VPS that you would have to secure, patch, and monitor.

Cloudflare tunnels are free and give you multiple layers of protection (requiring certain auth methods, geoblocking, not needing to expose your IP, etc)

They are great but the free tier has restrictions like a 100mb file limit and not using it for anything like videos or music. Otherwise it would be perfect for things like Immich. As they stand they are really good for other self hosted services like a recipe manager, a bookmark manager, etc.

Re: Ask HN: Cloud vs. Edge Computing–Why Choose a Local NAS?

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Cloud vs. Edge: Why choose a local NAS over iCloud, OneDrive, etc.? Cost, privacy, performance? Cost, privacy, sometimes performance, mostly because I can run it the way I want it to, so control Use Case: What tasks would your NAS handle? Jellyfin, Frigate, backups, AI/ML? My current NAS does all of it, jellyfin, home assistant, backups, LLMs, all the docker apps, etc. Performance: How key is CPU power, power efficie…

Thanks for your feedback. I will explore alternative to kickstarter as well.

Re: Ask HN: Cloud vs. Edge Computing–Why Choose a Local NAS?

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Cloud vs. Edge: Cost and performance. Use Case: Mainly storage but probably also jellyfin, and some ligher apps. Not really AI. Performance: How key is CPU power, power efficiency, or upgradability (e.g., PCIe slots)? For me power efficiency and noise would be important. Of course a better CPU is nice. Your LAN speed (1, 2.5, 10, 25 Gbps)? 10Gbps at least. Storage: Preferred drive bay count (2, 6, 8+)? NVMe cache for…

Thank you for your answer. Additional drives can be connected via USB. There are 4/5 bay case SATA to USB, some models come with RAID controller as well.

But wont that be super slow?

Re: Ask HN: Cloud vs. Edge Computing–Why Choose a Local NAS?

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There are already hundreds of small NAS devices out there, so that is going to be a very, very tough market to address. I follow the entry-level segment as part of industrial device consulting for small companies, and I find two or three a week…

Right now, my fave is this: https://taoofmac.com/space/blog/2024/12/26/2330 - closely followed by a multi-NVMe device with an N150.

Very different hardware, different use cases, etc.

Re: Ask HN: Cloud vs. Edge Computing–Why Choose a Local NAS?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cloudflare tunnels are free and give you multiple layers of protection (requiring certain auth methods, geoblocking, not needing to expose your IP, etc)

They are great but the free tier has restrictions like a 100mb file limit and not using it for anything like videos or music. Otherwise it would be perfect for things like Immich. As they stand they are really good for other self hosted services like a recipe manager, a bookmark manager, etc.

I believe that only takes place if you are using Gateway.

Re: Ask HN: Cloud vs. Edge Computing–Why Choose a Local NAS?

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I can't fill out the survey because I do not have access, so my answers are below. Cloud vs. Edge: Why choose a local NAS over iCloud, OneDrive, etc.? Cost, privacy, performance? Primarily privacy and control over my data. Fun to tinker with. Use Case: What tasks would your NAS handle? Jellyfin, Frigate, backups, AI/ML? Just storage, I can run a separate server that has all workloads. Performance: How key is CPU powe…

take a look at the aoostar wtr pro/wtr max

Thank you, these look great!
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