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EasyTier – P2P mesh VPN written in Rust using Tokio

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Re: EasyTier – P2P mesh VPN written in Rust using Tokio

#21

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Yes, but they don't host those projects inside China . This site is hosted inside China and has an ICP number.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but isn't this project (and website) essentially illegal in China?

VPNs in their basic sense are legal in China, many large companies provide them/use them and so on. VPNs designed to bypass the Firewall without government approval are a subset of VPNs which the police do not like.

Re: EasyTier – P2P mesh VPN written in Rust using Tokio

#22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, but they don't host those projects inside China . This site is hosted inside China and has an ICP number.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but isn't this project (and website) essentially illegal in China?

Why would hosting this website and creating this project be illegal in China?

They're not offering this as a SAAS or something...

Re: EasyTier – P2P mesh VPN written in Rust using Tokio

#23
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Anyone familiar with the Chinese tech scene can explain what this is at the bottom? # Zhejiang ICP No. 2024137671-1 It takes you to some government website but it is not clear whether this is a business registration or something else.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICP_license

Re: EasyTier – P2P mesh VPN written in Rust using Tokio

#24
What are some notable uses of P2P these days? You don't hear about it much any more.

I believe P2P rose to prominence two decades ago as a response to the cost of bandwidth. I wonder if similar methods could effectively overcome the cost of compute for LLMs. Here are two projects I found from a quick search:

Serving: https://petals.dev/

Training: https://github.com/learning-at-home/hivemind

Re: EasyTier – P2P mesh VPN written in Rust using Tokio

#25
post #24

What are some notable uses of P2P these days? You don't hear about it much any more. I believe P2P rose to prominence two decades ago as a response to the cost of bandwidth. I wonder if similar methods could effectively overcome the cost of compute for LLMs. Here are two projects I found from a quick search: Serving: https://petals.dev/ Training: https://github.com/learning-at-home/hivemind

Nintendo Switch multiplayer

*shudders*

Re: EasyTier – P2P mesh VPN written in Rust using Tokio

#26
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post #13

Anyone familiar with the Chinese tech scene can explain what this is at the bottom? # Zhejiang ICP No. 2024137671-1 It takes you to some government website but it is not clear whether this is a business registration or something else.

You need a government license to operate a website in China, and that's their license number.

Wait, really? Even like a personal website? Is it hard to get?

Re: EasyTier – P2P mesh VPN written in Rust using Tokio

#27

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This is a Chinese project (hosted inside China), so probably not very well.

Au contraire, it is usually developers of Chinese origin that build some of the widely used anti-censorship techniques & protocols. Ironically, it was American companies that sold firewall tech to the CCP: https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/us-internet-providers-and-g...

>China relied on two U.S. companies--Cisco Systems and Juniper Networks--to help carry out its network upgrade, known as "CN2," in 2004. This upgrade significantly increased China’s ability to monitor Internet usage. Cisco also sold several thousand routers (IHT) used to censor web content, and "firm’s engineers have helped set it to spot ’subversive’ key-words in messages."

What's ironic about that? Cisco sold them networking equipment and the CCP used it to censor.

Re: EasyTier – P2P mesh VPN written in Rust using Tokio

#28
post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You need a government license to operate a website in China, and that's their license number.

Wait, really? Even like a personal website? Is it hard to get?

Yes, all websites need it. Non-commercial sites afaik have a simpler process.

Re: EasyTier – P2P mesh VPN written in Rust using Tokio

#29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but isn't this project (and website) essentially illegal in China?

Why would hosting this website and creating this project be illegal in China? They're not offering this as a SAAS or something...

Distribution of software that subverts censorship laws.

Re: EasyTier – P2P mesh VPN written in Rust using Tokio

#30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but isn't this project (and website) essentially illegal in China?

VPNs in their basic sense are legal in China, many large companies provide them/use them and so on. VPNs designed to bypass the Firewall without government approval are a subset of VPNs which the police do not like.

OK so real VPNs are illegal. Then you have a subsets of VPNs that are regulated by the CCP and therefor legal. And useless for many use-cases.
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