Advice to Tenstorrent
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#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
>geohot has a loud mouth ... but he has earned the cred >I think geohot is an example of someone who earned some cred for impressive accomplishments in the past [...] Huh? Yeah, that's what I wrote.
> Huh? Yeah, that's what I wrote. You cut out the part of my post where I made my point. Earning “cred” for past accomplishments doesn’t give someone a free pass forever to be a loud mouth.
>Earning “cred” for past accomplishments doesn’t give someone a free pass forever to be a loud mouth.
What the ... ? Sorry, but you don't have to earn that. I suggest you familiarize yourself with human rights, particularly if you won the lottery and were born in a country like the US; it is very clearly written, in unambiguous terms, the rights their citizens enjoy.
And still, I'd rather listen to geohot rambling about whatever he wants to say, than some randos on the internet who have accomplished nothing but "arguing". Respect is not a right, it is earned, he's earned mine.
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#23Has geohot done anything since the original iphone jailbreak? The ventures he has started (I can think of tinygrad and comma ai) all seem like half finished tech demos.
His AMD rants were a valuable warning about the quality of their hardware. I wish he'd done that maybe 10 years ago when I was buying AMD cards thinking that they might work with pytorch in a year or so. I knew they had problems but if I'd realised how bad the situation was I'd have held my nose and gone with Nvidia.
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#24Has geohot done anything since the original iphone jailbreak? The ventures he has started (I can think of tinygrad and comma ai) all seem like half finished tech demos.
He's the founder of comma.ai Edit: you edited your comment after I told you he made comma.ai. Bit dishonest, but whatever, I wouldn't describe comma.ai as a "half finished tech demo" but you're allowed to your own opinion about it.
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#25I thought George was going to save AMD. Now he's saving tenstorrent? Busy guy!
geohot has a loud mouth ... but he has earned the cred and walks the walk. I wish there was a thousand more geohots than all the mediocre middle-managers at AMD or tenstorrent; or people who have never done anything beyond posting snarky comments in online forums.
One of the lessons I wish I'd learned earlier is that indulging bombastic behavior neither benefits them nor you.
Strong opinions, weakly held are good. Well-reasoned opinions to the contrary are even encouraged. Provided, of course, that they're smart enough to know when to persist and when to disagree and commit.
If you just indulge it, they end up with the engineering equivalent of Nobelitis. And if they're on your team, you end up with more burden than asset no matter how brilliant they are.
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#26Guy would really benefit from learning some manners. Just comes across as painfully toxic no matter how correct he is. edit: For what it's worth, if you can't see that this language is rude or think it is somehow acceptable for people of a certain caliber to talk this way - you're also probably toxic.
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Huh? Yeah, that's what I wrote. You cut out the part of my post where I made my point. Earning “cred” for past accomplishments doesn’t give someone a free pass forever to be a loud mouth.
Then I don't get the point you're trying to make. >Earning “cred” for past accomplishments doesn’t give someone a free pass forever to be a loud mouth. What the ... ? Sorry, but you don't have to earn that. I suggest you familiarize yourself with human rights, particularly if you won the lottery and were born in a country like the US; it is very clearly written, in unambiguous terms, the rights their citizens enjoy.…
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
Then I don't get the point you're trying to make. >Earning “cred” for past accomplishments doesn’t give someone a free pass forever to be a loud mouth. What the ... ? Sorry, but you don't have to earn that. I suggest you familiarize yourself with human rights, particularly if you won the lottery and were born in a country like the US; it is very clearly written, in unambiguous terms, the rights their citizens enjoy.…
Really you shouldn't need to know who is saying what. Words have merit, people can only have trust.
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#29Has geohot done anything since the original iphone jailbreak? The ventures he has started (I can think of tinygrad and comma ai) all seem like half finished tech demos.
How many times does he have to make international news before he is qualified to let off steam in a github README? He owns a company that works in this space and his opinions usually offer insights into the ML hardware world. Although he is a little bombastic and his grammar is vulnerable to criticism. His AMD rants were a valuable warning about the quality of their hardware. I wish he'd done that maybe 10 years ago…
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#30With all due respect Mr. Geohot, you've got an awful lotta nerve to throw stones from your glass house. This guy needs to drop the middle school tough-guy tone and post numbers. The central thesis of this article is sound, lead with it: > You aren't going to get better deals on tapeouts/IP than NVIDIA/AMD. You need some advantage. > If you want a dataflow graph compiler, build a dataflow graph compiler. Now explain w…
I think you're right, mostly, but... While I'm sure Jim Keller will make great silicon, I'm not sure how good he's going to be at shaping the SW platform thing. I hope he will, I'm rooting for him, but I feel that this might be a novel challenge for him. Geohot is abrasive to say the least, and, no, this is not a model for productive discourse(I'll try not to bring in some of his hot takes on the stream because givin…