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Stack Overflow is almost dead

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Re: Stack Overflow is almost dead

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The timing on the sale was genius. Similar to Mark Cuban with Broadcast.com. I guess it's best to sell something before the value plummets to 0. As far as its demise? AI ate its lunch. I use to use Stack Overflow all the time and haven't even gone to the site for a couple of years now.

Where's the AI of tomorrow going to learn from if nobody is posting Q&As online anymore?

That’s a tomorrow problem.

(As someone who is all too often hired tomorrow, at a fraction of the before rates, to clean up this mess)

Re: Stack Overflow is almost dead

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Stack overflow never owned the content, it is and was Creative Commons: https://stackoverflow.com/help/licensing

That license comes with obligations that the AI companies aren't following.

A distinction that is unfortunately as important as it is meaningless

Re: Stack Overflow is almost dead

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My heart goes to the stack overflow community which has always been very kind and helpful, essentially working for free. As a self-taught developer since the age of 8, I literally grew up learning how to code through SO, asking hundreds of questions and answering many more. So many bugs that would take 2-3 days to fix would eventually find their answer through it. But now ChatGPT does that in minutes… so it’s for the…

Until there is a radically new version of {popular programming language} with breaking changes and no new and correct answers to train on.

Re: Stack Overflow is almost dead

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My heart goes to the stack overflow community which has always been very kind and helpful, essentially working for free. As a self-taught developer since the age of 8, I literally grew up learning how to code through SO, asking hundreds of questions and answering many more. So many bugs that would take 2-3 days to fix would eventually find their answer through it. But now ChatGPT does that in minutes… so it’s for the…

> But now ChatGPT does that in minutes

But it's trained on stackoverflow data? What happens in a few years when the data gets more and more outdated? Where will it get its knowledge then?

Re: Stack Overflow is almost dead

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post #18

I suspect there will always be a place for SO-esque sites, but it will shift to be primarily for creating high quality data for ingestion by LLMs.

This is the absolute worst possible outcome! Humans toiling just to produce content to train AI on

What a miserable future to look forward to

Re: Stack Overflow is almost dead

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post #17
post #2

The timing on the sale was genius. Similar to Mark Cuban with Broadcast.com. I guess it's best to sell something before the value plummets to 0. As far as its demise? AI ate its lunch. I use to use Stack Overflow all the time and haven't even gone to the site for a couple of years now.

Where's the AI of tomorrow going to learn from if nobody is posting Q&As online anymore?

information will be repackaged like credit default swaps in the mid 2000s.

Re: Stack Overflow is almost dead

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post #7

It looks like Stackoverflow was already in a decline even before Covid. I wonder what developers started using during that time.

The graph shows monthly questions asked, not monthly questions answered. It makes total sense that the slope of that graph would be much higher earlier in the life of the site; as time goes on, many common questions will have already been answered.

Re: Stack Overflow is almost dead

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My heart goes to the stack overflow community which has always been very kind and helpful, essentially working for free. As a self-taught developer since the age of 8, I literally grew up learning how to code through SO, asking hundreds of questions and answering many more. So many bugs that would take 2-3 days to fix would eventually find their answer through it. But now ChatGPT does that in minutes… so it’s for the…

> But now ChatGPT does that in minutes But it's trained on stackoverflow data? What happens in a few years when the data gets more and more outdated? Where will it get its knowledge then?

It will steal our own data and we'll have a big "oopsie! didn't mean to!" moment 5-10 years after.
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