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Elizabeth Holmes's partner raises millions for blood-testing startup

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Re: Elizabeth Holmes's partner raises millions for blood-testing startup

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Doesn't look like any smart money on this one yet, but there's something bold about it. It's like Nassim Taleb's thing that you hire the ugly surgeon. This is one hideous surgeon. Fraud seems near impossible here. [Edit: a lot of thoughtful responses but downvoting?]

I hear what you're saying, but counterexamples (i.e. repeat scammers) abound.

Maybe Taleb's works should be added to that blog post - leading on HN today - about the questionable value of lay business books.

Re: Elizabeth Holmes's partner raises millions for blood-testing startup

#23
post #2

She had a recent interview[1] where she claimed she's actively working on her research behind bars and still wants the opportunity to change the world with her invention. This is not a coincidence at all. [ https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yw_xyGbUNZ0&pp=ygUWZWxpemFiZXR... ]

This would have to factor into any future parole considerations, wouldn’t it?

Maybe they can raise enough money for a pardon.

Re: Elizabeth Holmes's partner raises millions for blood-testing startup

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post #5

Doesn't look like any smart money on this one yet, but there's something bold about it. It's like Nassim Taleb's thing that you hire the ugly surgeon. This is one hideous surgeon. Fraud seems near impossible here. [Edit: a lot of thoughtful responses but downvoting?]

Yes, but in that example, he specifically says the ugly surgeon has to be as high-profile as the carefully-coiffed, megawatt-smile, could-have-just-walked-off-the-Chicago-Hope-set surgeon you're comparing him to. It's a heuristic for choosing between experts of roughly the same rank.

Re: Elizabeth Holmes's partner raises millions for blood-testing startup

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, because federal parole isn't a thing for crimes committed after November 1, 1987.

Federal parole may not be possible, but a pardon definitely is.

Yes, and given the current administration’s pardon practice, being shamelessly unrepentant and flagrantly likely to be a recidivist looks more like a positive than a negative consideration.

Re: Elizabeth Holmes's partner raises millions for blood-testing startup

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post #3

If its possible to keep creating and rug pulling new shitcoins, then it seems obvious that the same can be done with medical start-ups. What a weird world we are living in.

In the words of Coffeezilla, crime is legal now, fraudsters who donated to Trump are getting pardons

[0] https://youtu.be/xUBCX7AV5PY

Re: Elizabeth Holmes's partner raises millions for blood-testing startup

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Tangent but why does the title here says lover while the article says partner; no fan of Holmes, based on that, a probably (unfair?) low opinion of this guy, but come on.

Came here to say this.

The reporting of that guy and his relationship with her definitely caused me to have some negative thoughts and opinions, as in, what's wrong with this guy that he'd be involved with her? Isn't it irresponsible to have kids knowing she was headed for prison? But putting that aside, they have two kids together, which gives him a higher status than "lover".

The wikipedia on them says their status is also oddly ambiguous:

> In mid-2019, Holmes and Evans reportedly married in a private ceremony.[137][138] Holmes and Evans have not directly confirmed whether the two are legally married, and several sources continue to refer to him as her "partner" rather than her husband

Re: Elizabeth Holmes's partner raises millions for blood-testing startup

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Just wow. I think it's an uncomfortable truth that there was some good in Theranos in terms of the unfulfilled needs of society and the potential of diligent work toward realizing those needs with technology. I don't know how often it's been said by others, but I often think that Theranos would have had an easier time if they hadn't falsified anything. Faking things takes effort too, and aiming a little lower and bei…

If Theranos hadn't falsified anything, would they have had a product? My recollection, having read _Bad Blood_, is that they would not.

Good intentions to save the world, without any working (or even possible!) technology, are not investment-worthy.

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