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Re: OpenSearch 3.0 Released

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Post by blueelephanttea »

simple10 wrote: post #2

Just learning about OpenSearch. Looks like it's a fork of Elasticsearch from 2021 when Elasticsearch changed licensing model. https://github.com/opensearch-project/OpenSearch Anyone know if it's still a drop in replacement for Elasticsearch? And how does it compare on performance and features?

> Anyone know if it's still a drop in replacement for Elasticsearch?

As you point out it was forked a number of years ago so it started from the same place (7.10). Elasticsearch is now on 9.0+ and has 27,000 more commits than OpenSearch. So I doubt it is a drop-in replacement anymore.

I have no idea how many of those 27K commits are key features, but it is clear divergence.

Re: OpenSearch 3.0 Released

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Post by ignoramous »

simple10 wrote: post #2

Just learning about OpenSearch. Looks like it's a fork of Elasticsearch from 2021 when Elasticsearch changed licensing model. https://github.com/opensearch-project/OpenSearch Anyone know if it's still a drop in replacement for Elasticsearch? And how does it compare on performance and features?

> Just learning about OpenSearch. Looks like ...

OpenSearch was once a personal search results aggregator conceived at A9 (Amazon's Silicon Valley subsidiary): https://github.com/dewitt/opensearch

Re: OpenSearch 3.0 Released

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Post by wingmanjd »

unethical_ban wrote: post #9

I just want a quick log ingestion tool that can parse syslog easily and graph/search fields for me. Setting up a simple log ingestion on Opensearch or ELK felt like a true journey, in a bad way.

Have you tried out Graylog? Their core product does pretty decently at my $DAYJOB.

Re: OpenSearch 3.0 Released

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Post by Blackthorn »

ignoramous wrote: post #22
simple10 wrote: post #2

Just learning about OpenSearch. Looks like it's a fork of Elasticsearch from 2021 when Elasticsearch changed licensing model. https://github.com/opensearch-project/OpenSearch Anyone know if it's still a drop in replacement for Elasticsearch? And how does it compare on performance and features?

> Just learning about OpenSearch. Looks like ... OpenSearch was once a personal search results aggregator conceived at A9 (Amazon's Silicon Valley subsidiary): https://github.com/dewitt/opensearch

Sometimes, the same name refers to multiple things.

Re: OpenSearch 3.0 Released

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Post by Macha »

simple10 wrote: post #2

Just learning about OpenSearch. Looks like it's a fork of Elasticsearch from 2021 when Elasticsearch changed licensing model. https://github.com/opensearch-project/OpenSearch Anyone know if it's still a drop in replacement for Elasticsearch? And how does it compare on performance and features?

One thing that Opensearch misses that would have been very nice to have on a recent project is enrich processors (https://www.elastic.co/docs/manage-data/ingest/transform-enr...)

If you're just using the standard document ingestion and search stuff, yeah, they're mostly compatible. But the fancier features that were part of the paid version in the past or have been recently developed are either not compatible or missing.

Re: OpenSearch 3.0 Released

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Post by [deleted] »

nullify88 wrote: post #18
binarymax wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s surprising how challenging this is for both Elastic and Opensearch. The problem is that it’s all configuration and no convention, so you need to roll everything yourself. There should be prescribed recipes to make this simpler. If you’re using something like opentelemetry you can find help easier but it’s still annoying.

It's possible but you need to buy in to the Elastic ecosystem. Stuff like *beats, logstash, etc, they can configure all sorts of index templates, and ingest pipelines depending on what you've configured it to receive. These days, getting data in and out of Elasticsearch is quite easy with dynamic field mapping. Its keeping it performant which is tricky.

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Re: OpenSearch 3.0 Released

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Post by jsiepkes »

Y-bar wrote: post #7
simple10 wrote: post #2

Just learning about OpenSearch. Looks like it's a fork of Elasticsearch from 2021 when Elasticsearch changed licensing model. https://github.com/opensearch-project/OpenSearch Anyone know if it's still a drop in replacement for Elasticsearch? And how does it compare on performance and features?

It's worth noting that in September 2024 Elasticsearch once again returned to a fully open source license (A GPLv3).

But Elastic Search is still open core. So certain "enterprise" functionally will never make it in the OSS version (unlike in OpenSearch).

Re: OpenSearch 3.0 Released

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Post by wqtz »

I feel sad for this project. This was a reactionary project to elasticsearch's license change to say, heck with it, I will open my own elastic spinoff with AWS.

The vibe of the project's community is pretty much reminiscent of a dead multiplier game. The community is not thriving which is essential for an OSS project and elasticsearch is virtually irreplaceable in this space. I do not know any enterprise customers using it because it is unproven and they have failed to show they are going to stick around for the long run.

Then every other SIEM platform is spinning up their own search platforms. Heck I even saw Cribl there in their own partner list which has its own search platform now. And elastic has a SIEM platform now with Elastic Security. Not sure the purpose of this project is now Elastic just won the battle and then later virtue signaled everyone by saying we are open source again y'all because even if we come around and slapped your engineers who said they are not going to touch proprietary code, your management is not going to pay for a migration to an untested fork with no long term commitment and which was essentially made out of spite.

Re: OpenSearch 3.0 Released

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Post by whoevercares »

wqtz wrote: post #29

I feel sad for this project. This was a reactionary project to elasticsearch's license change to say, heck with it, I will open my own elastic spinoff with AWS. The vibe of the project's community is pretty much reminiscent of a dead multiplier game. The community is not thriving which is essential for an OSS project and elasticsearch is virtually irreplaceable in this space. I do not know any enterprise customers us…

I thought Elastic as the company has been economically damaged by OpenSearch and AWS for many years.
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