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Trump announces 100% tariffs on movies ‘produced in foreign lands’

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Yes this man was democratically elected. There didn’t seem to be a particularly appealing set of options for the electorate.

As an outsider it seems a lot like groups pulling the political levers in the US only ensure candidates that can be ‘handled’ are put forward and those that can’t will be rooted out.

That’s why the choice was between braindead Biden vs deranged Trump. And when it was clear Biden wasn’t an option, a belated shift to try sell Kamala to the electorate.

I don’t think we’ll see strong presidential candidates - those clearly motivated to better the country and its citizens - in the near future either. The process now seems to suit the corporate and lobby groups who jostle to get their share of influence.

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Trump always hated foreign movies - I remember him disparaging an Academy award winning movie purely because it was non-English language. Wonder what prompted this outburst - the success of Ne Zha 2 (china bad), or No Other Land (can't say Palestine)?

This proclamation and his desire to reopen Alcatraz may be linked to the fact that PBS in Palm Beach aired "Escape from Alcatraz" last night. Presumably the tariffs on foreign movies came from his annoyance at channel surfing. https://bsky.app/profile/garyalexander.bsky.social/post/3lof...

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Defund education then defund culture. Sounds exactly like America First/America Only. Next up is propaganda and filling Americans' minds with only what he wants you to know. He can flood the media as he's been flooding the government, all the pieces are in play. Still nobody putting up a meaningful fight. Your window is closing.

What would a meaningful fight look like?

General strike, for example.

Re: Trump announces 100% tariffs on movies ‘produced in foreign lands’

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Was the USA's movie industry really under threat from abroad? In my local cinema here in Europe the great majority of popular movies is American .. To me this move seems more a kind of cultural censorship. Similar to how many foreign movies can't be shown in Russia or China.

That's not what this is about.

Most American movies are shot outside of the US these days because among other factors Hollywood unions have made it way more expensive to shoot in the US.

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Trump is likely saying this because the new Prime Minister of Canada is visiting tomorrow, and Canada has been fairly successful building a "Hollywood North" industry -- lots of good filming locations, lots of talents that are indistinguishable from Americans, and tax credits on top.

This is 100% targeted at Canada, and trying to threaten destroying the Canadian film industry as another lever against Canada.

And it is laughably silly. Even in Canada alone, "Hollywood" nets far more than it ever spends here[1]. And of course worldwide media is something that the US has an enormous trade surplus. It's yet another harebrained bit of nonsense from the extremely smooth, simpleton mind of Trump and his greasy used-car salesman, carnival barker Howard Lutnick.

What Trump is really achieving in all of these declarations is making the rest of the world ask why do we accept Hollywood controlling the film or music industry, or Silicon Valley controlling the tech industry, or NYC the financial industry, etc? The end result of this is going to be massive decentralization and lowered importance of US industry leadership.

[1] Not to mention that the tax credits quite literally subsidizes the industry. And FWIW, I am wholly against tax credits for film productions, and much like paying a sports team to build a stadium, the accounting of the supposed benefit just doesn't make any sense.

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I live in Belgium. It feels like 95% of all films I ever hear about are American. Opponents counter MAGA with 'America was never great', but here they'll say 'Movies have never left America'?

Most non-American movies are slop, melodramatic vaudeville, or tear-jerking gut-punches. Most American movies are slop too, but America can afford to swing at more pitches and consequently get more hits.

Have you ever tried to watch Korean movies from the last 20 years? It's all melodramatic romance-crime-poverty slop, with the rare Kim Ki-duk or Bong Joon Ho in there to balance it out. And that's a country with a wonderful reputation for quality film-making.

I mean you get zombies on a train and that's a fun popcorn flick, but it's forgettable. It's no Tremors, Twister, or Independence Day.

In Indonesia for every The Raid there's 999 poorly acted, poorly shot melodramas with a thin well-trodden story.

And don't get me started on "let's yell at each other for 120 minutes" Russian cinema.

American movies are by far the most watchable, especially when you don't feel like going on a heart-wrenching journey of despair, which is all international cinema excels at.

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Yes this man was democratically elected. There didn’t seem to be a particularly appealing set of options for the electorate. As an outsider it seems a lot like groups pulling the political levers in the US only ensure candidates that can be ‘handled’ are put forward and those that can’t will be rooted out. That’s why the choice was between braindead Biden vs deranged Trump. And when it was clear Biden wasn’t an optio…

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