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Re: Old Timey Code and Old Timey Mono Fonts

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I wonder why Luxembourgish is supported when German is not...

Maybe Luxembourgish doesn't have an uppercase ẞ?

Dutch is also not supported. Presumbly no support for the 'ij' digraph. But do you even need that in a monospace font? Admittedly old Dutch typewriters used to have a single character for it, but that's really old-timey.

Re: Old Timey Code and Old Timey Mono Fonts

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Thank you so much for making and sharing this. I'm especially grateful that you included the code variant. I'm not a programmer but love monospace fonts but the lack of a slashed zero in so many otherwise lovely fonts has been a deal breaker for me!

Spotted my kin! What is it that makes slashed zeroes so nuch more appealing than the other kinds of "zeroes"? Slashed zeroes are definitely much better than those nasty dotted inverse donut zeroes How does a dot in a zero even make any kinda logical sense? It's like a piece of dough floating in midair in the center of a donut Dotted zeroes [insert copypasta] bad I don't even know why I'm so obsessed with the slash in…

I will defend the honor of dotted zeros! I really like the zero in Space Mono, I think that nailed the retro future aesthetic.

IMH(and no design school)O when the character is oblong and the dot is a circle, it creates a similar contrast to the straight slash through an ellipse, but with less visual weight.

Re: Old Timey Code and Old Timey Mono Fonts

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Spotted my kin! What is it that makes slashed zeroes so nuch more appealing than the other kinds of "zeroes"? Slashed zeroes are definitely much better than those nasty dotted inverse donut zeroes How does a dot in a zero even make any kinda logical sense? It's like a piece of dough floating in midair in the center of a donut Dotted zeroes [insert copypasta] bad I don't even know why I'm so obsessed with the slash in…

I will defend the honor of dotted zeros! I really like the zero in Space Mono, I think that nailed the retro future aesthetic. IMH(and no design school)O when the character is oblong and the dot is a circle, it creates a similar contrast to the straight slash through an ellipse, but with less visual weight.

Dotted zeros remind me of the BIOS screen on an old monochrome Compaq luggable. Good times.

Re: Old Timey Code and Old Timey Mono Fonts

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I can't tell if you're aiming for a faithful reproduction of the original font, or to make the coding font modern and most useful to today's developer. But... Can the code variant have the asterisk used to represent multiplication be on the same line as other math operators like plus, minus, and tilde? +-~* I always like the asterisk to be in line with the others. Maybe I am just weird. Also for the code variant I think the pound or hash mark # could be reduced in drama a little, to fit in with the other punctuation marks. Thanks for listening to my two cents.

Re: Old Timey Code and Old Timey Mono Fonts

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Based on Reproducing Typewriter, a letterpress typeface from c. 1906 used to create fake typewritten letters for promotional material. Where other monospace typefaces replicated actual typewriters, Reproducing Typewriter had improvements for better readability at smaller point sizes and/or where poor quality reproduction was an issue. I thought its features would make it the basis of a good coding font, too. Old Time…

Looking at the examples, they look good, though one thing stands out, the "w" seems to be bolder than the other letters. The "m" seems fine, as do the other letters and symbols, just the "w".

It appears to look that way in the Turbo Pascal manual as well. I'll check ATF specimens and whatnot.

Re: Old Timey Code and Old Timey Mono Fonts

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thank you so much for making and sharing this. I'm especially grateful that you included the code variant. I'm not a programmer but love monospace fonts but the lack of a slashed zero in so many otherwise lovely fonts has been a deal breaker for me!

Spotted my kin! What is it that makes slashed zeroes so nuch more appealing than the other kinds of "zeroes"? Slashed zeroes are definitely much better than those nasty dotted inverse donut zeroes How does a dot in a zero even make any kinda logical sense? It's like a piece of dough floating in midair in the center of a donut Dotted zeroes [insert copypasta] bad I don't even know why I'm so obsessed with the slash in…

Yeah the dot is mostly a manner of preference. It looks less crowded than slashed zero maybe? The dotted zero does disambiguate from U+00D8 [LATIN CAPITAL LETTER O WITH STROKE](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%98).

Re: Old Timey Code and Old Timey Mono Fonts

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Based on the first link, it seems as though zero and upper-case "O" are very similar. (My eyes cannot discern a difference, but I admit that my eyes are not top-notch.)

The original typewriter had no "0" or "1" you were expected to use "I" or "O" in place. I suspect an authentic typeface should have trouble distinguishing them. and having said that, forget authenticity, I really appreciate typefaces that make an effort to distinguish all characters.

I was taught to use lowercase letter L for the digit 1 though I did see typewriter samples using the capital I.

Re: Old Timey Code and Old Timey Mono Fonts

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This is pretty nice: thanks for including polytonic Greek and macrons over Latin vowels including over y. I especially love how the breathing marks and accents look together over initial vowels in Greek, and I love zeta (ζ) and xi (ξ) in this font. Might I make a few specific suggestions: - allow combining breve over Latin y as well: sometimes that's handy for indicating contrast - check the height of stacking diacri…

Ok so there's no capital or small Y with breve in Unicode.

Are you seeing the combining breve to the right of the Y/y (instead of atop it) when trying to use them?

Your suggestions are welcome, thank you!

Re: Old Timey Code and Old Timey Mono Fonts

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I can't tell if you're aiming for a faithful reproduction of the original font, or to make the coding font modern and most useful to today's developer. But... Can the code variant have the asterisk used to represent multiplication be on the same line as other math operators like plus, minus, and tilde? +-~* I always like the asterisk to be in line with the others. Maybe I am just weird. Also for the code variant I th…

Old Timey Mono is the mostly faithful reproduction.

Old Timey Code is the coding friendly font.

I'm aiming for both.

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